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Old December 31st, 2008, 03:51 PM
Hajo Flettner
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Default Re: Adding legal herbs to shisha?

Originally Posted by mattathayde View Post
ironic, i was thinking about this the other day randomly.

native americans smoked many other legal things other than tobacco (from my understanding before any white men came the tobacco that was here naturally was way to potent to smoke). but know they smoked bearberry leaves but im not sure what else.

upon some quick research it looks like the tobacco that was smoked by the settlers was a cross breed of the harsh native stuff and something else, and it looks like they also smoked red willow bark (supposedly it is like tobacco some how, but you dont need to be 18 to get it so idk... but i have some that is pretty old but its been sealed so i may try it)

heres a link to kinnikinnik (the native blend of herbs and tobacco) or at least one mix of it. may be interesting to experiment with trying to use some of the same herbs in shisha to give some new flavors

I don't get the term "native American" being used to refer to the aboriginal/Amerindian people of North America. They self identified as members of tribes rather then nation states (a European concept institutionalized with the Treaty of Westphalia in 1648) and certainly did not refer to themselves as Americans prior to European colonization.

It should also be noted that Occidental man was present in North America long before Christopher Columbus and arguably pre-dated the aboriginal/Amerindian populations.

A native American is anyone that is a natural born citizen of the U.S.A. Defining a "native American" in aboriginal/Amerindian terms is basically a way to delegitimatize Occidental Americans and the culture they built and advance an anti-Occidental agenda.

The early history of tobacco cultivation is far to complicated to get into here but I do want to get back onto topic about adding herbs (legal or otherwise) to a narghile.

First, we should keep in mind that a great deal of perfect legal herbs are in fact highly dangerous (even fatal) and the fact that such herbs have been consumed historically does not mean it's a safe thing to do. I recreate historical ales and a great deal of what was once used in ales of old are toxic so if you are not a genuine expert on the pharmacology of the herb in question don't consume it.

Almost as serious is that I really think that the head shops peddling various "legal highs" should not be a topic of conversation on a forum like this one. I say so because I seems it will give people the idea that our hobby involves smoking intoxicants which simply increases the likelihood of being stigmatized even more then we currently are. I also don't think we should allow links to places that sell smokable intoxicants.

Last edited by Hajo Flettner; December 31st, 2008 at 03:54 PM.
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