Originally Posted by JillyIsJustKidding
From my experience, I could have sworn the regular vortex uses WAY more tobacco than a phunnel Sam
My vortex doesnt use too much tobacco. I can get quite a few uses out of a 50g. I would say 20-25g if you pack it somewhat conservatively. But when you pack it like that, your almost guaranteed not to burn because it has a bit more room to breathe between the foil and the shisha.