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Old May 7th, 2010, 09:28 PM
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Default Re: IN DEFENSE OF SMOKERS

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Originally Posted by Hajo Flettner View Post
You are correct that everyone is free to read or not read what ever they want. However, I, and everyone else, is equally free to reject wholly ignorant mis-characterizations of unread texts as blather not to be taken seriously.
You didn't only reject it, you made offensive remarks as well. I'd have no problem if you just rejected him, but I'm just wondering, again, if it's too much to ask for a little respect.

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You claim that most people would disagree without the response I gave him yet as I have come to expect from you no evidence at all supporting such a notion has been presented. In any case, the mere popularity of an opinion in no way lends it credence so again we see that one is free to proclaim ignorance as the poster in question did and others are equally free to call it such.
Pretty sure a lot of people here disagree with calling somebody narrow minded and ignorant since this is a respectful community where such offensive remarks are frowned upon.

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As to having something positive to say I would say that silence in the face of willful ignorance is no vice and to condemn such ignorance is a virtue. As to debating in a respectful manner I correctly pointed out that the opinion of the poster in question is baseless and that he admitted as much. I also pointed out that ad hominem attacks and strawman fallacies are tools used by the narrow minded and willfully ignorant to suppress contrary opinions that rest upon evidence. That you fail to criticize such things while condemning me for my honesty demonstrates that my opinion of you is correct.
You have your right to condemn his comments in any way and try to disprove them, I don't agree with them myself. My only question is if it is that hard to do so in an adult matter without personal attacks. Present your evidence all you want, that is not what we are talking about at all, it's about showing respect to fellow members and being mature about proving somebody wrong or telling him that he's wrong.

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Since our opinions on each other won't change and another pissing contest is not in the best interest of the forum I would request that rather then continuing this off topic exchange we let people that actually want to read the text in question do so and discuss it.
If it's really that much to ask to show a little respect.
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