My reasoning for never buying any CCN is simple. The bastards refuse to step foot here on HP and be active but they continue to suk up to the other forums. Let them rot. I have tried the ******* coals and think they are quite good. However I am still a fan of Exoticas and my AF/Akhla quicklights. If you love Cocos you should give the ******* cocos a try. If for no other reason to stop supporting those who could care less about HP. And besides you get quite a bit more coals in the CH boxes than you do in the CCN. That's enough angst ranting, happy smoking!