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Old January 21st, 2016, 03:03 PM
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Hello,

i'm new to this forum, so sorry if I make any mistakes. Also, English is not my first language, but i'll try my best.

Now to the import part.

I have got some problems with my smoking sessions. I don't get any taste from my tobacco. The tabacco i'm using is Al Fakher Double Apple and I have been using a small phunnel. I put the tobacco kinda fluffy in the bowl and then press it lightly (more tapping it) so that the tabacco is under the outer and inner rim. I use a double layer of foil and pin some holes in it.

After that I put the bowl on my hookah, and put one half of quicklights (40mm) on one end and one half on the other end of the bowl. (Yes, I know quicklights are bad. I'm going to buy natural coals very soon.) I let the quicklights sit for a few minutes and then rotate them for a quarter. During this I put a selfmade windcover around it.

So the coals have been on the bowl for 5-10 minutes before I have my first pull. I get okay clouds, but no taste at all. When the tabacco lays on my desk I smell the sweet smell of the Double Apple in my room, but when I smoke it I don't taste anything.

Is this just because of the quicklights? It isn't my hose or the stern, because I have cleaned them and they don't have a nasty taste when I pull from it.

Hope you guys can help me...

edit: I also have got a egyptian bowl. Is that easier to pack or to get more flavour?
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Old January 21st, 2016, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: Can't get any flavour.. need some help (Pics included!)

Im surprised that you report decent clouds. Youre bowl is way underpacked. You want the tobacco to be just below the rim of the bowl. Imagine being able to lay a quarter on top if the tobacco and having IT even with the rim.
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Old January 21st, 2016, 03:47 PM
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You're packing a bit low- put a little more tobacco in there.

I don't use quick-light coals, so I'm not familiar with their heat output, but it looks to me like you could use a bit more heat.

Also, your coals aren't lit. Make sure your coals are fully lit before putting them on the bowl.
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Old January 21st, 2016, 03:48 PM
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Old January 21st, 2016, 03:56 PM
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Old January 21st, 2016, 04:52 PM
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Old January 21st, 2016, 07:28 PM
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Default Re: Can't get any flavour.. need some help (Pics included!)

The bowl is under packed like others are saying. Bowl packing was the hardest part of learning to smoke a hookah for me. I don't know how many harsh bowls I went through before I got it right. I'd switch to natural coals when you can. Make sure they are lit fully or ur going to have a bad time.
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Old January 22nd, 2016, 04:33 AM
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Thanks for all the reactions! I will try to put some new packing photos on today, if you guys are ok with that?
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Old January 22nd, 2016, 08:36 AM
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Just packed a new bowl.
Does this one look better? or still a bit underpacked?
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Yep.... That ought to do it.
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Old January 22nd, 2016, 09:55 AM
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Just finished the bowl. Smoked for around an hour or so..
Had sweet flavour, still not the taste I was hoping for, but at least I did get some flavour and even more decent clouds! Looks like more heat and more tabacco did the work!

I also was in the store today and bought some Nakhla Mizo Water Melon.
Any tips on what bowl (egyptian or small phunnel) and packing?

I really appreciate the help i'm getting from you guys! Fun in smoking shisha is back
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either bowl, dense pack it to the top touching the foil. Give it plenty of heat and let it warm up for about 5 minutes before smoking. If using the egyptian bowl make sure the holes aren't blocked by blowing through the bottom or using a poker to poke up through them after packing. Never smoked watermelon so if that is finicky with heat maybe someone else has experience with it.

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Old January 22nd, 2016, 10:30 AM
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What you're saying is I have to let the top part of the tabacco burn, stabbins?

another question: the tobacco did made some fizzling sound when I put the coals on, is this a good or a bad thing?
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yep pretty much. And the sizzling sound is normal and you should get that while the tobacco seers.
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As long as the tobaccos top layer seers before you pull on it the smoke shouldn't be harsh. Also when you are heating up the bowl to seer, put the coals on the bowl fully. Back them towards the edge of the bowl when you start to pull on the pipe and adjust as needed. When I first started smoking nak I'd get harsh bowls everytime I tried this packing method. Turned out I was edging the coals during the cooking stage and it wasn't letting the top layer crisp up very well. Then I did what I was telling you to try and it's been great ever since.
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