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Old December 5th, 2010, 04:23 AM
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Mixing in epic smoke just a little bit with potent flavors.
--Reduces their potency if they're too much
--Makes really thick smoke
--Basically has no flavor, doesn't really matter what name it's called.
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Old December 5th, 2010, 07:32 AM
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I don't get how it would improve your smoke. But if you want an alternative idea with similar results, smoke Social Smoke. Big clouds, great taste, and far more superior than Epic.
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Old December 5th, 2010, 11:18 AM
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the idea behind this would require that you actually spend money on epic smoke plus the tobacco you are diluting. Not the best of idea's when you could buy tobacco that you prefer flavor wise and still get a lot of smoke if thats what your going for.
P.S. Adding Vegetable Glycerin would basically serve the same purpose as epic smoke tobacco.
But at least your giving it the ol' college try
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Old December 5th, 2010, 02:22 PM
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yeah, i agree with both oak and and forcastle. epic smoke just needs to be given up on. try out some social smoke, or fumari. it doesnt get alot of talk around here, but imo, almost tied for social smoke as far as clouds. both are pricey, but well worth it
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Old December 5th, 2010, 02:41 PM
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If you have some epic smoke layin around I would try it with a bowls worth to see what happens
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Old December 5th, 2010, 03:38 PM
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Social smoke!
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why is social smoke so loved all of a sudden?
i mean its ok, but what's with the fans?
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Old December 5th, 2010, 05:25 PM
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why is social smoke so loved all of a sudden?
i mean its ok, but what's with the fans?
I just really enjoy flavors from Social Smoke I have tryed.
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Old December 5th, 2010, 05:42 PM
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why is social smoke so loved all of a sudden?
i mean its ok, but what's with the fans?
Seriously.

Also I don't get why people can't get alot of smoke out of any modern tobacco (including nakhla), I always get a shitfuck of a cloudage leaving the room hotboxed.
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i agree gram. i will say that more glycerine does provide thicker smoke but if u pack nakhla right or just about any othet shisha ( not including DM ) u can get good thick clouds
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Old December 5th, 2010, 05:55 PM
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why is social smoke so loved all of a sudden?
i mean its ok, but what's with the fans?
It would seem to fit the criteria for what OP was looking for without the experimentation involved with using Epic Smoke tobacco. Especially with the "large clouds" aspect.
What you deem as just "ok", may be the cats meow to another. A statement that could be used with all tobacco's.
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Yeah, I also don't have any problems getting some huge clouds with Nakhla.
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Also I don't get why people can't get alot of smoke out of any modern tobacco (including nakhla), I always get a shitfuck of a cloudage leaving the room hotboxed.
Smoking both western and traditional hookah tobacco's I agree that almost anything with some sort of moallases, honey, or glycerin base is going to provide enough to smoke to give a pleasent mouthfeel, and smooth texture while conveying the flavors of said tobacco. However, the newer western style tobacco like starbuzz, social smoke, romman, ex cetera, being comprised heavily of glycerin will always give huge white plumes of smoke that people look for when they talk about "epic clouds" and so on. This seems to be the key difference people discuss when they want more smoke/clouds what have you.
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Also I don't get why people can't get alot of smoke out of any modern tobacco (including nakhla), I always get a shitfuck of a cloudage leaving the room hotboxed.
Speaking from experience, a lot of people are probably putting regular nakhla in vortex bowls, which gets close to nothing as far as smoke is concerned. However, in a small egyptian bowl, it produces a ton of smoke, tastes stronger, and lasts just as long.

The only nakhla I smoke out of vortex bowls anymore is mizo because of how wet it is.
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Smoking both western and traditional hookah tobacco's I agree that almost anything with some sort of moallases, honey, or glycerin base is going to provide enough to smoke to give a pleasent mouthfeel, and smooth texture while conveying the flavors of said tobacco. However, the newer western style tobacco like starbuzz, social smoke, romman, ex cetera, being comprised heavily of glycerin will always give huge white plumes of smoke that people look for when they talk about "epic clouds" and so on. This seems to be the key difference people discuss when they want more smoke/clouds what have you.
Yeah, guess I'm in it for more than just clouds. And in all honesty I'm almost always turned off by the mod washed tobaccos, sb, ss, af, etc.. not because of the artificial or otherwise chemical taste, but because they leave me craving for a smoke after every session, which I can't say the same about nakhla, dm, etc...

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Speaking from experience, a lot of people are probably putting regular nakhla in vortex bowls, which gets close to nothing as far as smoke is concerned. However, in a small egyptian bowl, it produces a ton of smoke, tastes stronger, and lasts just as long.

The only nakhla I smoke out of vortex bowls anymore is mizo because of how wet it is.
I actually don't remember the last time I've smoked anything out of my egyptian (probably more than a year ago). I've had the funnel collecting dust while I used the vortex and just recently went back to smoking everything out of a funnel, imo both worked fine as far as taste, longevity, clouds and heat management, but I find funnel to work slightly better.
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why is social smoke so loved all of a sudden?
i mean its ok, but what's with the fans?
It's good.
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I just have a lot of epic smoke around, and it's the cheapest thing at the closest store here. All the stores here have are epic, taru, starbuzz basically. Taru is nice, starbuzz is expensive. epic doesn't taste like anything, but it is smooth and thick so it's a decent smoke if I just want something cheap and efficient haha. Most starbuzz is crap, there are a few flavors I like.. very few. All the epic lying around can sometimes mellow out the starbuzzes that are overflavored and gross. It's a last resort of messing around with two crappy buys, I'm not saying everyone should go and do this. It's just on the spot smoking when I don't have anything ordered from the net (which ends up happening a lot). Need some good shisha at the stores here lol. Taru is probably my safest bet. Just not many flavors.
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Clouds < good flavor
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