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Old March 28th, 2010, 05:28 AM
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I mentioned over a year ago i thought i had fake coconars
http://www.hookahpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7442
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Old March 28th, 2010, 06:33 AM
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All my boxes of 108 have fliers but no stamps....but I got these from a very poplar vender about a half a year ago?
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Old March 28th, 2010, 07:06 AM
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I mentioned over a year ago i thought i had fake coconars
http://www.hookahpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7442

my ones are exactly the same as the ones you refer to as new in ur old thread. the packaging the way they seem to be burning, everything.

they just dont burn the same or last as long, has another session with these yesterday and had to go back to quicklights the cocos just didnt cut it.

i had 1 coco just die on me 30 mins into the session and it went completly black.
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Old March 28th, 2010, 02:08 PM
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my ones are exactly the same as the ones you refer to as new in ur old thread. the packaging the way they seem to be burning, everything.

they just dont burn the same or last as long, has another session with these yesterday and had to go back to quicklights the cocos just didnt cut it.

i had 1 coco just die on me 30 mins into the session and it went completly black.
I had mine from shishashop.co.uk in the UK but im sure te owner i unaware he had fakes
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Old March 29th, 2010, 11:12 AM
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I had mine from shishashop.co.uk in the UK but im sure te owner i unaware he had fakes
did you manage to get a refund?

i want to see what this seller says before naming them as it could be a genuine mistake.

its worrying though as untill i sent them my email with a link to this thread they had a good offer on coconara coal and the day after i sent my email it was removed.
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Old March 29th, 2010, 11:54 AM
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Guys, does Hookah John, hookah store, hookahhookah etc. sell quality ones or no?
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Old March 29th, 2010, 12:11 PM
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i think you can really only assume, you can email and ask though. Those are all reputable dealers (that I would assume know real vs. fake) but IMO, with this sort of issue being fairly prevalent, i'd just order from coco direct (coco-nara.us i believe)
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Old March 29th, 2010, 12:21 PM
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http://www.coco-nara.us

Get them right from the manufacturer! Affordable and fast shipping too!
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Old March 29th, 2010, 03:31 PM
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http://www.coco-nara.us

Get them right from the manufacturer! Affordable and fast shipping too!
For US people yes, get them from the manufacturer, but what people from Canada should do, like me? I buy mine at **********, I can't buy coals from one place, shisha from other, shipping costs 30-40$
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Old March 29th, 2010, 04:40 PM
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their response to my email

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Hi Divesh,

Sorry for the delay getting back to you.

We are aware that there are issues regarding Coconara coals on the UK
market and
we have been trying to establish whether these coals are in fact fake or
not.
The coals sold on our site are the same coals sold on other UK sites.

We have been in contact with coconara in Lebanon about 2 months ago to
import
our own batch of coconara coals. We were told that they were introducing
new
packaging due to " fake packets " on the market. We asked them to send us
the
new packaging designs so that we could distinguish between the original and
the
fake. We were sent there new packaging on which we noted they had infact
changed
the brand name to cocomazia with no reference on the packaging to coconara
or
the website itself. We are aware that the coconara brand remains in wide
circulation in Lebanon and other arab countries and is still being
circulated
under the coconara brand. Infact we have recently purchased a qty of
coconara
coals from there Egpyt distributor which is coming in with our shipment of
pipes
this week. This has been purchased from there official distributor and
again the
packaging contains no leaflet inside or stamp!

I understand from speaking to several people in the industry that coconara
and
cocobrico are apparently manufactured by the same company. The agreement is
not
to have cocobrico on the US market whilst coconara should not appear on the
UK
market. The coconara produced for the US is stamped and contains a leaflet
inside. The coconara which is for the Lebanese market does not contain this
fancy leaflet.

Having spoken to our suppliers for coconara, we have been assured that this
is
not fake coconara coal and that it has been purchased from the Lebanese
market
having been distributed by Coconara Lebanon. I have had discussions with
the
other websites stocking coconara as they also have the same stock and we
have
come to the conclusion that they are simply trying to control the movement
of
coconara coals into the UK market by having a different design packaging
for the
US market and one for the Lebanese market. It is the coals from the
Lebanese
market which is entering the UK and into the shops and websites however
this is
coal placed on the Lebanese market by coconara Lebanon!

I know this sounds long winded and confusing, however this is the
explanation we
have. We are more then happy to refund you the cost of the coals or send
you a
batch of coconara coals that are due to arrive towards the end of this week
/early next week from coconaras egypt distributor to see if you find any
difference in the quality.
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Old March 29th, 2010, 05:31 PM
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Default Re: fake coconaras

i have coconaras imported from Qatar and they're legit, they don't come with the stamp or leaflet either in the 16 piece boxes, but they do in the 64 piece box.. haven't noticed any difference in quality with my coconaras
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Old March 29th, 2010, 05:50 PM
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Default Re: fake coconaras

I always get the flyer with mine, but good thing to know.
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Old March 30th, 2010, 03:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by div007 View Post
their response to my email

----------------------------------------------------------------
Hi Divesh,

Sorry for the delay getting back to you.

We are aware that there are issues regarding Coconara coals on the UK
market and
we have been trying to establish whether these coals are in fact fake or
not.
The coals sold on our site are the same coals sold on other UK sites.

We have been in contact with coconara in Lebanon about 2 months ago to
import
our own batch of coconara coals. We were told that they were introducing
new
packaging due to " fake packets " on the market. We asked them to send us
the
new packaging designs so that we could distinguish between the original and
the
fake. We were sent there new packaging on which we noted they had infact
changed
the brand name to cocomazia with no reference on the packaging to coconara
or
the website itself. We are aware that the coconara brand remains in wide
circulation in Lebanon and other arab countries and is still being
circulated
under the coconara brand. Infact we have recently purchased a qty of
coconara
coals from there Egpyt distributor which is coming in with our shipment of
pipes
this week. This has been purchased from there official distributor and
again the
packaging contains no leaflet inside or stamp!

I understand from speaking to several people in the industry that coconara
and
cocobrico are apparently manufactured by the same company. The agreement is
not
to have cocobrico on the US market whilst coconara should not appear on the
UK
market. The coconara produced for the US is stamped and contains a leaflet
inside. The coconara which is for the Lebanese market does not contain this
fancy leaflet.

Having spoken to our suppliers for coconara, we have been assured that this
is
not fake coconara coal and that it has been purchased from the Lebanese
market
having been distributed by Coconara Lebanon. I have had discussions with
the
other websites stocking coconara as they also have the same stock and we
have
come to the conclusion that they are simply trying to control the movement
of
coconara coals into the UK market by having a different design packaging
for the
US market and one for the Lebanese market. It is the coals from the
Lebanese
market which is entering the UK and into the shops and websites however
this is
coal placed on the Lebanese market by coconara Lebanon!

I know this sounds long winded and confusing, however this is the
explanation we
have. We are more then happy to refund you the cost of the coals or send
you a
batch of coconara coals that are due to arrive towards the end of this week
/early next week from coconaras egypt distributor to see if you find any
difference in the quality.
It actually does make sence if they are tryin to regulate the cocobricos and coconaras as i have said for a while now they are the same coal, but the bricos are twice the size and hence last a lot longer, and are cheaper.

I didnt ask for a refund earlier as they was no proof they were fake, i thought it was a bad batch and smoked them.

Next time try the cocobricos they are a lot cheaper and better imo, and shisha life have a great deal on them if you are a heavy smoker like me, 20kilos for only 50
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Old March 30th, 2010, 06:52 AM
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I ordered some cocobricos with my KM from hookahshop last week. I was using 2 (fake) coconaras before..shall I just use 1 cocobrico?
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Old March 30th, 2010, 09:36 AM
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Guys .. order right from the source ..

In the United States http://www.coco-nara.us

All other locations: http://www.coco-nara.com/
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Old March 30th, 2010, 06:10 PM
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I ordered some cocobricos with my KM from hookahshop last week. I was using 2 (fake) coconaras before..shall I just use 1 cocobrico?
I used same amount of coconara's as cocobricos
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Old March 30th, 2010, 06:45 PM
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looks like they're going to rebrand to coco mazaya

http://www.cocomazaya.com/index.html

"Coco Mazaya is the new name with a new design and a new number, but inside, it is THE Original Charcoal."

They have 27 piece and 108 piece boxes
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cant tell if mine are legit or not, packaging looks fine, have the leaflet inside and have the heavy packaging but i dont have the stamp on the inside :S
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Old April 7th, 2010, 06:47 AM
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My box of 108 was also not very glossy though the coals inside, little cubes, take about 8 minutes to light (no problem cuz it gives time to get everything else prepared while they are heating). With the fan on the range hood going they don't smell the place up and they do last 50+ minutes. Darn. Time to order another box, too. LOL This time I'll probably just order directly from coconara.
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Old April 8th, 2010, 11:09 AM
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like sambooka said maybe worth you ordering direct from the supplier if your in the US

im waiting on the new batch this vendor offered to send me and see if they are any better
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Old April 8th, 2010, 11:19 AM
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mine have everything except for the flier, but they smoke really well so i don't think they are the fakes.
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Old April 17th, 2010, 03:31 AM
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got a new pack from the vendor, it was a their new 27 piece box and theyr great.
They dont take as long to light, havent gone out on me while smoking and they ash completly different.

The orignal batch i had would leave small black pieces whilst burning on the foil which looked like little stones.

the ew ones burn perfectly.

ill upload some pics comparing both soon.
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got a new pack from the vendor, it was a their new 27 piece box and theyr great.
They dont take as long to light, havent gone out on me while smoking and they ash completly different.

The orignal batch i had would leave small black pieces whilst burning on the foil which looked like little stones.

the ew ones burn perfectly.

ill upload some pics comparing both soon.
Were the vendors shishalife?
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my local hookah store has some fake looking coconara but it doesnt say they are but it is obviously very similar packaging, next time I will get a snap shot.
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dont have to worry about this ever again thanks to the hookahpro discount directly from the manufacturer!!!!!
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