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Old May 7th, 2013, 04:50 AM
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hello guys, i have been smoking for around 3 years and i just got a KM zoharia. For some reason my smoke is thick white clouds but it is really harsh, i dont know what im doing wrong. I use three coconara coals, sprinkle my tangiers shisha so it doesn't touch the foil, double foil and have three rings of holes, ice water, and vortex bowl.
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Old May 7th, 2013, 04:56 AM
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Try less coals, use 2 cocos.
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Old May 7th, 2013, 04:58 AM
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i'm using 2 cocos right now it is still very harsh......i put them on the rim
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Old May 7th, 2013, 05:02 AM
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How big are the holes you are making? Try smaller holes for better heat control.
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Old May 7th, 2013, 05:05 AM
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i use toothpick sized holes, are there smaller holes possible?
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Old May 7th, 2013, 05:09 AM
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Yeah use a safety pin or a needle. I have found that sometimes the toothpick size holes are too big, also depends on the pattern and how many holes. I stick with my pin size holes. Never have issues.
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Old May 7th, 2013, 05:12 AM
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if i do three rings pattern with safety pin do i need to put loads of holes? what pattern do you use?
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Old May 7th, 2013, 05:24 AM
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My pattern depends on the tobacco i am smoking. I usually use one ring of pin size holes around the edge of the bowl, then 3 lines of holes going from top to bottom, one line left, one line in the middle and one line right. Or you could try a spiral of pin sized holes all over the foil.
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Old May 7th, 2013, 05:31 AM
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i would most likely be using tangiers with vortex, would that be better with spiral or your usual pattern?
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Old May 7th, 2013, 05:40 AM
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Try the spiral pattern with your vortex. Try less holes too to see if it assists with controlling the heat. Keep using two coals. It is definitely a heat issue.
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Old May 7th, 2013, 05:45 AM
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sounds good.
thanks so much for the help, really appreciate it
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Old May 7th, 2013, 06:03 AM
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Default Re: harsh hookah smoke

wait... sprinkle tangiers?? dont know of anyone who does this most people i know slightly pack even the lucid stuff. but any whoo. tangiers is best used with a phunnel of somekind either a pico or small work pretty well. when i packed mine into a vortex the airflow was simply not up to snuff the pack causes the spire holes to become clogged.


i would suggest investing in a phunnel. also this will not really help with the harshness but take out that ice, it really does kill the flavor of the smoke.

make sure your bowl is packed correctly it dosent sound like the foil pattern could be an issue.
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Old May 7th, 2013, 06:51 AM
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there are a lot of videos out there with tips on packing tangiers with various kinds of bowls (you didnt mention what kind of bowl you were using). But I also havent seen where 'sprinkeling tangiers' is very common. Dense packing usually is. If you have been smoking it for a long time with no issues, it may be a different bowl is causing you issues (vs just the new stem). You might try to find video tips for packing for what ever type of bowl you are using with this new stem (specifically if it is different than what you are used to using). If your using the same bowl -- well, NM Unless your new stem has some kind of issue (like a leak or what not-- but then I wouldnt expect you get those clouds - sounds more like heat issue).
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