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Old July 7th, 2017, 11:57 AM
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So i loaded up a bowl of little purple candy very excited to try it. Packed it dense into a harmony bowl and put 2 haze coco coals in a lotus top on and vents closed...waited 5 mins started puffing and barely any smoke. Kept puffing for about 10 mins started to get some whispy smoke. Put another coals in the lotus and took the top off. Started getting some clouds but really no flavor. Its been going for about 30 mins now and im getting decent smoke but the flavor is really light. Tastes like a watered down grape kool-aid. Is this just what it is? very subtle flavor? From what ive heard and read this should not be the case. Whats going on!? Looking for some advice. Thank you!
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Old July 7th, 2017, 12:32 PM
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In my opinion, tangiers performs better with foil. If youre using a lotus, give it 10 mins to warm up.
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Old July 7th, 2017, 12:35 PM
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In my opinion, tangiers performs better with foil. If youre using a lotus, give it 10 mins to warm up.
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yep foil is better, but if you use a lotus anyway have the bottom touching the tobacco. 2 coals are usually fine. let it warm up 7-8 minutes before smoking.
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Could also be dodgy batch. Try packing it a little bit less dense, a lot of people pack Tangiers a lot tighter than it needs to be and I think it smokes better in a more 'semi-dense' pack
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Could also be dodgy batch. Try packing it a little bit less dense, a lot of people pack Tangiers a lot tighter than it needs to be and I think it smokes better in a more 'semi-dense' pack
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Yep. Fred's right on both counts.

Some Tangiers flavors ARE a bit inconsistent. With regards to packing, ignore all the fanboy videos. Just fill the bowl above the rim and pack it just below. Its not as complicated as all the fanfare suggests.
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thanks gentlemen, i have some kashmir peach and cane mint waiting to try also hoping for better results next time
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Old July 12th, 2017, 03:30 PM
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Hi. If you want smoke tanhiers well, just try use foil and 4 coals, wait 3 minutes while there is a lot of heat in a cup and enjoy!
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Old July 12th, 2017, 06:14 PM
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I always noticed with Birquq a watery note, but you could be overpacking it, and IMO the Lotus sucks for Tangiers. Foil, pack it semi-dense, 2 to 3 cocos, and it should be good to go.
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Hi. If you want smoke tanhiers well, just try use foil and 4 coals, wait 3 minutes while there is a lot of heat in a cup and enjoy!
4 cubes? I wouldn't advise that
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4 cubes? I wouldn't advise that
you would think that but they all do it in Russia and it seems to work for them
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yes, we are. Smoke session in that case is 40-60 minutes, but you feel max flavour
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you would think that but they all do it in Russia and it seems to work for them
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Perhaps, but for those of us who arent Russian ( or Tevas) 4 cubes is a retarded amt of heat for Tangiers, depending on bowl size. Im usually in the sweet spot with three flats and a windcover for a 20-25 g bowl.
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Perhaps, but for those of us who arent Russian ( or Tevas) 4 cubes is a retarded amt of heat for Tangiers, depending on bowl size. Im usually in the sweet spot with three flats and a windcover for a 20-25 g bowl.
i think they fluff pack it so it is more heat resistant
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Old July 14th, 2017, 01:28 PM
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I dont like using foil to much of a hassle with heat management, especially if you have carpets and ash goes everywhere. Therefore the best way i smoke it is foil and a provost.
Pack it dense and leave a 2mm gap between foil and tobacco.
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i think they fluff pack it so it is more heat resistant
it`s always about heat control. In Russia we use Crown coals, they make a lot more heat than cocobrico. But if you try to take tangiers in phunnel with 4 layers of foil 10 nm (or 2 layers 20 nm) with 4 coals - the tastes will be a lot better.

There is a video, how we do it at 18:26 (you can understand everything without knowing russian): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfU4ETiJ4P8
Also at 3:24 there is a video with Eric, and he shows how he do it, but personaly i don`t recomend do like he does
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it`s always about heat control. In Russia we use Crown coals, they make a lot more heat than cocobrico. But if you try to take tangiers in phunnel with 4 layers of foil 10 nm (or 2 layers 20 nm) with 4 coals - the tastes will be a lot better.

There is a video, how we do it at 18:26 (you can understand everything without knowing russian): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfU4ETiJ4P8
Also at 3:24 there is a video with Eric, and he shows how he do it, but personaly i don`t recomend do like he does
Yeah I don't think anyone recommends Eric's packing method. Shisha in Russia all seems very interesting; I'd like to learn more about it but there isn't much information in English
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Yeah I don't think anyone recommends Eric's packing method. Shisha in Russia all seems very interesting; I'd like to learn more about it but there isn't much information in English
i wanted to do a video for a forum, but i sawe that the last video on this site is 2015 year, so i don`t think anybody will have interest
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but i found a video with subs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYJAJ0Hg2Cg
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As in most things, ymmv. But honestly, the last thing i need is packing method that requires twice the foil and 25% more coals then my usual. ... friggin Eric Hofmann
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As in most things, ymmv. But honestly, the last thing i need is packing method that requires twice the foil and 25% more coals then my usual. ... friggin Eric Hofmann
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i wanted to do a video for a forum, but i sawe that the last video on this site is 2015 year, so i don`t think anybody will have interest
You could always make your videos in Russian and write English subtitles underneath. That way you'd get viewership from both demographics. People still make videos, they just don't post it on the forum anymore since it's more convenient just going direct to YouTube
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It's another case of one platform murdering another, like Reddit v forums
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