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Old June 12th, 2013, 11:16 AM
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Hello I've been smoking hookah for just over a year now and Everytime I smoke my own hookah I can't pull off the big clouds. All the shisha I smoke is al fakher. At hookah bars I go to the smoke is always very dense with massive clouds i can't seem to do that. (all the hookah bars I go too use one coal for medium to large bowls). I have a medium Km hookah with a medium mod bowl. What can I do to get more smoke? If I put a second coal on it gets really harsh. Is it my packing method? Hole pattern? Water level?

Coals used are af quick lights

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Old June 12th, 2013, 11:32 AM
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All of the above.
Quick lights are garbage throw them away and get naturals
Mod bowls are garbage throw it away and get a funnel/vortex/crown
Water a little above the stem.

Clouds are dependent on heat management and packing. Fix your bowl and fix your coals and you should be good to go
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Old June 12th, 2013, 11:42 AM
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All of the above.
Quick lights are garbage throw them away and get naturals
Mod bowl garbage throw it away and get a funnel/vortex/crown
Water a little above the stem.

Clouds are dependent on heat management and packing. Fix your bowl and fix your coals and you should be good to go
I will buy some natural Coals to try them out
I have a small vortex bowl but not sure how to pack and heat manage It
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Old June 12th, 2013, 01:51 PM
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the 'how to pack' depends on your shisha. Most require fairly loose (airy) packing. But very wet.. you want a denser pack (like tangiers). You can usually find videos on recommendations of packing.

That said.. it is what works for YOU. I dont pack a lot of things the way it is 'recommended'. I pack it the way it works for me. If what your doing doest work, change something the next time, and see if that works better..etc. It can be a bit of trial and error in the beginning -- but the result when you get it figured out is well worth it.

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Old June 12th, 2013, 02:16 PM
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True the mod bowls wont give you phadt azz kalowdezzz but dont throw yours away. Seriously guys quit telling the young blood to throw their stuff away.
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Old June 12th, 2013, 02:22 PM
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True the mod bowls wont give you phadt azz kalowdezzz but dont throw yours away. Seriously guys quit telling the young blood to throw their stuff away.
if he keeps it he'll be tempted to use it. That's like telling a 14th century european not to throw out a plague rat :P
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Old June 12th, 2013, 03:51 PM
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got a single pear km with vortex bowl i pack feathering it, then using nuhose, 2 coconara need help and for some reason my grommet on the stem is the hole way up like there a lil gap and for some reason when i blow i feel like the air is escaping from there need help
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Old June 12th, 2013, 04:51 PM
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if he keeps it he'll be tempted to use it. That's like telling a 14th century european not to throw out a plague rat :P
Ok so lets say he throws out the mod bowl. Whats he gonna use if he breaks his good bowl?
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Old June 12th, 2013, 05:04 PM
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Ok so lets say he throws out the mod bowl. Whats he gonna use if he breaks his good bowl?
He gets a better one?
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Old June 12th, 2013, 06:40 PM
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got a single pear km with vortex bowl i pack feathering it, then using nuhose, 2 coconara need help and for some reason my grommet on the stem is the hole way up like there a lil gap and for some reason when i blow i feel like the air is escaping from there need help
Then put another grommet in there (you can double them up) -- or use tape or electrical tape to make it thicker.

I actually have two grommets on the stem in the rig I am using at the moment - and it works well. The one grommet fits well into the base -- the second grommet fits on the stem.. and together they make a good seal
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Old June 13th, 2013, 07:13 AM
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Ok so lets say he throws out the mod bowl. Whats he gonna use if he breaks his good bowl?
honestly id rather smoke nothing than smoke a mod bowl. for whatever awful reason i used a mod bowl pretty consistently for a couple weeks last fall. those were awful sessions. not a single one went well. i was trying to figure it out, packed a vortex, realized where all my problems lay. then i went on to buying good bowls. with egys costing under 5 dollars, the only excuse for using a mod is ignorance.
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I would rather smoke with good flavor as opposed to big clouds. In terms of priorities I think you should be trying to get the best flavor quality and texture out of your smoke and the volume will come naturally when you get that right.
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I would rather smoke with good flavor as opposed to big clouds. In terms of priorities I think you should be trying to get the best flavor quality and texture out of your smoke and the volume will come naturally when you get that right.
This. + 1. I used to think it was cool to show off for people with huge cloud output. But now it's more about the flavor. The clouds from my Tangiers isn't nearly as puffy or milky white. Compared to SB. But Tangiers is way better flavor wise.
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