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Old February 28th, 2009, 09:47 PM
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Default Increase in shisha prices in the UK and EU

All the shisha stores just jacked the prices up to 10 pounds for a 250g Nakhla pack. they used to be 5-7 pounds! I been also getting reports from Romania that teh prices have doubled. Anyone aware of any new taxes?
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Old February 28th, 2009, 10:05 PM
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Still waiting to see what the April 1st tax hike will be here in the States.

I buy cigarette tobacco by the pound. Right now it's costs $15. The new taxew are going to jack it up to $40.

G__d__n socialists just can't understand that you don't raise taxes when the economy is down.

Unless they want to make sure it stays down......
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new tobacco taxes FTL!
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taxes hit are smoke shops to
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Still waiting to see what the April 1st tax hike will be here in the States.

I buy cigarette tobacco by the pound. Right now it's costs $15. The new taxew are going to jack it up to $40.

G__d__n socialists just can't understand that you don't raise taxes when the economy is down.

Unless they want to make sure it stays down......
sounds like right wing BS to me! Who is raising your tobacco tax?
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Old February 28th, 2009, 11:21 PM
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Who is raising them, you ask? Why The Obamassiah and his minions...er...folllowers, of course!
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The SCHIP program will be funded entirely through increases in tobacco taxes taking effect April 1, 2009.
Below are the anticipated wholesale price increases due to the new legislation:
[LIST][*]Cigarettes - $6.40 per carton on all cigarettes.[*]Cigars 33.6% increase.[*]Little Cigars - $2.20 per carton.[*]Pipe Tobacco 158% increase in the tax.[*]Scrap Tobacco 158% tax increase - $0.73 per carton.[*]Snuff 158% tax increase.[*]RYO Tobacco 2159% tax increase - $9.33 per 6 oz bag, $24.87 per 16 oz bag.[*]Cigar Wraps 2159% tax increase - $5.00 per box.[*]Cigarette Tubes $0.16 per 200 ct box.[/LIST]
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Old February 28th, 2009, 11:31 PM
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Schip is federallly funded. If your tobacco taxes are going up that's an issue for your state legislature which I beleive is controlled by the Republicans.
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These are FEDERAL tax increases.
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Personally, I'm more concerned w/American children having health insurance than I am w/yours and mine tobacco prices.
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And that my friend, is a topic for a different forum.

I'll end by saying that it won't be enough. Mark my words. Within two years, they'll be raising them again....for the chillldren.
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*cough*ronald reagan was the devil*cough* ahh man this damn cold is getting to me...
Honestly, expect tobacco to always rise, we have 3 main vices in this country, and in most states we only allow 2. Gambling, Alcohol, and Tobacco, we tax the hell out of them, when we need more taxes, we say fuck it, lets make rarebreed wild turkey even more expensive for photolinger, lets make Starbuzz even more expensive than its worth. If you're ok with legalizing other vices, you can tax the hell out of those, but since we only have a few to work with, the government doesnt feel as bad taxing those...and bailing out failing car companies, and allowing AIG to waste millions of bailout dollars on a handful of executives staying in resorts *for work*.

This really belongs in the serious discussion btw.
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here's the newsletter released by my local pipe/cigar shop here in CA:



taken *from www.briarpatch.biz

Federal Tax Increase on Tobacco Products

As you may be aware the federal SCHIP (State Children's Health Insurance Program) was approved by Congress and signed into law by President Obama on February 4th. The increased benefits provided by the new plan are being "funded" by increases to federal tobacco excise taxes. These new taxes will take effect on April 1, 2009.*

Yes, this means the prices of your tobacco products will be increasing, some substantially. We know how much the federal taxes will increase, but we are unsure exactly how much prices will increase at the retail level. Because of margins taken by manufacturers and distributors, and California excise tax, retail prices could increase by as much as three times the Federal excise tax increase.*

We will have to pay a 'floor' tax on all tobacco products except for premium cigars. We will not increase the price on cigars until we receive merchandise shipped after April 1st. All other tobacco products will probably have two price increases. One on April 1st and the next when we receive new products that have the taxes and margins added.*

Below are the Federal excise tax increases (remember the retail prices will be higher due to California excise taxes and margins taken through the supply chain):*

Large cigars will increase from 20.719% with a cap of 4.875 cents per cigar to 52.75% with a cap of $.4026 per cigar.*
Little Cigars (cigarillos) will be increased from $.3656 per pack of 20 to $1.01 per pack.*
Cigarettes will increase from $.39 per pack to $1.01 per pack.*
Pipe tobacco will increase from $.0686 per ounce to $.18 per ounce.*
Moist snuff will increase from $.043 per can to $.113 per can.*
RYO tobacco will increase from $.0686 per ounce to $1.55 per ounce. This is not a misprint. RYO tubes will increase from $.10 per box of 200 to $.35 per box.

Depending on supply, we are planning on maintaining our normal inventory levels on all products except RYO Tobacco. Due to the huge expected price increase we will be reducing our inventory.*

If you want to stock up on your favorite product before the prices increase please let us know. If it is not in inventory, we will be happy to take special orders and will do our best to get the order to you before the prices increase. Please order early to be sure you receive your products.






we'll see how the prices increase in April...personally i'm hoping my favs wont go up beyond my price range (although $45 per cigar is already expensive for the ultra premiums i still have $8 cigars that are great) *i'm glad i bought the last 11 Strativarius they had last month for $260...
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Default Re: Increase in shisha prices in the UK and EU

oh shit looks like it's time for me to buy a few pounds of shisha now so i can get a nice stash going
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Default Re: Increase in shisha prices in the UK and EU

i just bought 17 new flavors in 100g - 250g packs and i already have tons here already...i think i'm set for quite a while...but that wont stop me from buying more as soon as i have funds to do so...i want some more JM's, Java, Fumari, Fusion, and Nakhla...
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german taxes dont rise this year.
but we already pay about 12-15€ for 250g and 4€ for 50g.
but since i am just smoking american shisha, it doesnt matter for me ...
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The local shop i buy at is still a fiver for 250 nakhla, its all good for me, I live near wimbledon, London
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In the Netherlands the taxes are even higher. With taxes 50 gram of Nakhla will costs 5,95 euro and 250 gram will cost you about 25 euro.
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The local shop i buy at is still a fiver for 250 nakhla, its all good for me, I live near wimbledon, London
Stock up while u can!
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In the Netherlands the taxes are even higher. With taxes 50 gram of Nakhla will costs 5,95 euro and 250 gram will cost you about 25 euro.
omg ... really? i thought the netherlands are much cheaper, than germany ...
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quick everyone, we need underground bunkers stockpiled with shisha and coals to weather the nuclear apocalypse! taxes are just the beginning!
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its really not just tobacco going up... in my lounge the price for bottled pop has gone up, chips have gone up, slim jims... it never seems like that much until i add it up... its amazing what $0.05 increase can do to a final number.
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Wow pipe tobacco is skyrocketing! That is not cool, it's already too much for a good tin.
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All the shisha stores just jacked the prices up to 10 pounds for a 250g Nakhla pack. they used to be 5-7 pounds! I been also getting reports from Romania that teh prices have doubled. Anyone aware of any new taxes?
It seems to me that since tobacco consumers are politically weak and unorganized and a popular target of scorn it's easy to get the state to demand we shoulder the needs of the rest of society. Raising tobacco taxes is always a safe move politically so the fact that higher taxes means less consumption and hence less revenue is a fact consciously ignored.

Naturally, our masters here in Europa see fit to subsidize/encourage various sexual practices that that are for more harmful to public welfare but since such things are fashionable with the cultural Bolshevik elite nothing will change. Another factor to which our masters are oblivious too is that the prohibitive taxes on tobacco have destroyed a great many jobs which has an economic cost as does the rise in criminal syndicates trafficking tobacco.
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Old March 2nd, 2009, 02:27 PM
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Schip is federallly funded. If your tobacco taxes are going up that's an issue for your state legislature which I beleive is controlled by the Republicans.
State legislatures don't determine federal tax policies and SCHIP is supposed to be funded entirely with federal excise taxes on tobacco.
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Its going up $5,000 per ton here in the states. Do the math on the price increase on Shisha.
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