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Old March 7th, 2009, 02:45 PM
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hi,

i have a big problem since 1-2 week, before when i was smoking any flavor on any hookah, i was able to smoke 1-2 hour with the same taste before the shisha start being black...

but now when i do exactly the same thing as before, the aluminum start being white and i have to move the charcoal and 3-4 minute later the new spot become white too, so after less than 30 minutes, my shisha taste like sh** and i have to make a new head and the same thing happens again and again... what could be the problem?

here's some picture of what happen after 30minutes
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Old March 7th, 2009, 02:48 PM
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You're packing the bowl too full.

The shisha is touching the bottom of the foil, burning, and sticking. Pack less tobacco.
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Old March 7th, 2009, 02:57 PM
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ohh i see, so i got to leave like 1-2 mm between the shisha and the aluminum?
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Old March 7th, 2009, 03:15 PM
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ohh i see, so i got to leave like 1-2 mm between the shisha and the aluminum?
Yeah, If the shisha is touching the foil it will always burn and always taste like ass.
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Old March 7th, 2009, 03:25 PM
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Yeah, If the shisha is touching the foil it will always burn and always taste like ass.
+1 .... and also try to use one piece less coal and see what happens ..... and also remove the windcover when u feel it is getting harsh
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Old March 7th, 2009, 03:29 PM
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all right, thanks a lot guys, i will go try it live and ill tell you if it worked or not

thanks again
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oh and, do you guys putt 1 or 2 sheet of aluminum ? and which side goes up? the shiny or the other one?
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Shiny up ..... foil should be stretched very tight ..... if it sags down, double it
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I was always told to put the shiny side down because it reflects the heat better and keeps the heat where u want it...on the shisha.
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What kind of coals are you using and how many?
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I was always told to put the shiny side down because it reflects the heat better and keeps the heat where u want it...on the shisha.
and that would also scorch the tobacco faster .....
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1 coal, three king quick light charcoals
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Old March 7th, 2009, 04:20 PM
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I use 2 or 3 coconara depending on the diameter of the bowl. Always shiny side down on the foil and leave about gap of 1/8 inch. If you are using HH or HF shisha, leave an even bigger gap.
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and that would also scorch the tobacco faster .....
+1 i always do shiny side up
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shiny side up/down dosent matter, the heat is not being given from the light coming off it is from the air being heated and radiation, renyolds says for cooking it doesnt matter for this it shouldnt matter either. i put shiny side down out of habit but i see no real reason it would make a real difference

1-2 MM is less space that i put usually, i will put probably 2-4 MM (usually on the less side of that unless its a more touchy tobacco). i have gotten the foil to turn white and give a bad taste but i dont really know why/how any more than it seemed like when there were fresh coals put on a bowl after a previous round of coals. put the coals on the edge of the bowl more and that may help that part a bit. but if your getting stuck tobacco on the foil it is packed to hight or the foil is to lose.

i use 2 layers of normal foil, 3 coconut style coals usually

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1 coal, three king quick light charcoals
i have smoked nahkla,layalina and al amir using 2 threekings in the last week and i bearly have to move them around the bowl and i always get good clouds and the shisha never burns...im guess that 2 is good for just about everything
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Shiney Side Up / Down doesnt matter. For the thickness of the foil, the reflective properties are pretty much nill, and the shiney side is caused by the shearing process of the foil, nothing else.
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