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Old March 8th, 2009, 12:30 AM
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Default What is wrong with Razan hose !!

I just got my Razan hose 2 days ago and I have noticed that it is OK for the first 10 minutes, then the smoke become harsh. i have tried my KM hose with the same setup and I didn't have any problems.

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Old March 8th, 2009, 12:35 AM
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Default Re: What is wrong with Razan hose !!

maybe your used to the slightly tighter draw with the KM hose and the pulls with Razan are somewhat easier and its burning your shisha?
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Old March 8th, 2009, 12:48 AM
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Default Re: What is wrong with Razan hose !!

That's what I was thinking but usually the KM hoses are about the same draw wise (arguably better). My guess is that a different factor is the culprit.
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Old March 8th, 2009, 01:08 AM
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Default Re: What is wrong with Razan hose !!

So pulling the Razan when it gets harsh and putting in the KM fixes the harshness?
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Old March 8th, 2009, 01:30 AM
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It's all in your head methinks
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Old March 8th, 2009, 01:38 AM
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Default Re: What is wrong with Razan hose !!

i bet it wont happen the second time.
it just doesn't sound right.
i always thought they were about the same
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Old March 8th, 2009, 01:47 AM
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I thought they were the same just different names for selling reasons
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Old March 8th, 2009, 01:52 AM
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Default Re: What is wrong with Razan hose !!

hrmm... check the source of alll burning in the hookah world... is the tobacco touching the foil? the time that it takes for you to change the hose may cool down the tobacco... do you purge it before or after you change the hose?

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Old March 8th, 2009, 06:19 AM
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hrmm... check the source of alll burning in the hookah world... is the coals touching the foil? the time that it takes for you to change the hose may cool down the tobacco... do you purge it before or after you change the hose?
Man you lounge owner guys are hookah magicians. I wish I could levitate a coal so it didn't touch the foil and I still got good smoke!
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Old March 8th, 2009, 06:29 AM
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Man you lounge owner guys are hookah magicians. I wish I could levitate a coal so it didn't touch the foil and I still got good smoke!

LMAO wow i will def edit that lmao damn
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Old March 8th, 2009, 10:44 AM
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Default Re: What is wrong with Razan hose !!

WOW first time ive heard of that, switching between similar hoses and reducing harsh smoke, i have used stock mya hoses before to reduce harshness before tho
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Default Re: What is wrong with Razan hose !!

I rarely switch hoses during a session. Before each smoke i breathe the air through each hose to see what is most similar to what im smoking to help make it taste better.
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how about you don't inhale with all your might and you won't burn the tobacco.
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Old March 8th, 2009, 11:08 AM
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Default Re: What is wrong with Razan hose !!

also could it just be the plastic taste that is seeming harsh. to plastic taste was really bad to the point it kind of hurt my lungs
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Old March 8th, 2009, 12:34 PM
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Default Re: What is wrong with Razan hose !!

i switch between my KM hose and my razan all the time, there's no problem there. so idk what's goin on with yours
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Maybe because this is the first time for me to smoke with those plastic hoses. Also, when I took the mouth piece out and put my finger inside the hose, I have noticed it was moist. So, this might be the reason of the harshness !!
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Default Re: What is wrong with Razan hose !!

I just think since the pull is easier your burning the tobacco in a faster way. My Razan Sultan just came in yesterday and it pulls like a beauty. Love my hose from John =]
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Maybe because this is the first time for me to smoke with those plastic hoses. Also, when I took the mouth piece out and put my finger inside the hose, I have noticed it was moist. So, this might be the reason of the harshness !!
That is just from the nature of the smoke. It is mostly water vapor and condensation occurs through out the session.

My guess would just be that it is a coincidence. Were you switching out the hose mid session? Or were you setting the hookah up the same and trying each hose on an individual session? I have never heard of a hose causing harshness. I can't think of any reason that would be possible.

Usually harsh smoke is just a product of heat management problems and it gets blamed on other factors.
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Old March 8th, 2009, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: What is wrong with Razan hose !!

I think I am really good when it comes to heat management. I am sure there is a difference between leather hoses and plastic hoses.
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I think I am really good when it comes to heat management. I am sure there is a difference between leather hoses and plastic hoses.
well, if you were good with heat management, it wouldnt burn regardless of the hose. Quite honestly, the only thing the hose can change is taste (if its new, or has ghosted flavors), pull or ease of pull (which you can adjust yourself by sucking harder). I mean, technically, you dont even need a hose to smoke hookah, just put your mouth over the hose port. If you tried that then it would eliminate the factor of the hose burning the shisha. The only logical thing i can think of is that you were pulling too hard and this shisha burned. After it burned, you removed the hose, not only allowing the coals to rest for a min and cool down, but the shisha and bowl cooled down ever so slightly too. This could be the only thing that the hose could change.
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Default Re: What is wrong with Razan hose !!

difference between hoses cant make the tobacco harsh. how can the hose logically change the way the tobacco burns (if both have the same pull)
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Default Re: What is wrong with Razan hose !!

Different hoses do have different diameters so you pull easier cause of a bigger opening. Which then may leads to tobacco burning faster. I think =P
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Default Re: What is wrong with Razan hose !!

Thanks guys for your help. I think the problem is solved.
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Apparently Wide-bore Razan + Saudi power-lungs = burnt bowl

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Old March 8th, 2009, 04:15 PM
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Apparently Wide-bore Razan + Saudi power-lungs = burnt bowl
LOL ...

In fact the problem was the super easy pull of this hose which burnt the tobacco. I needed to adjust the way I inhale.
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