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Old March 15th, 2009, 09:23 AM
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This one is sure to get DMC's attention.
I was on Al Fahkers online website looking around and found in the hookah setup foil should be shiny side up.now I'm confused.is this a misprint. What is the difference between up or down?
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Old March 15th, 2009, 09:51 AM
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NOTHING

the heat will not be transfered any differently at least in a noticeable way, the air flow of the room will affect it more than shiny side up or down

most people do shiny side down, i do it out of habit, but it doesnt matter
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Old March 15th, 2009, 11:11 AM
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In my experience, it does matter. I use both method depending on what am smoking, what coals and whether i have the mood to move them around all the time.
When using shiny side up, i dont need to move the coals all the time around. It also works much better with a windcover. If am not in the mood to play around with the coals i put it shiny side up and just plop a bigger piece of charcoal than normal and it works like a charm.
Shiny side down works better with glycerin based stuff (eg. fusion, starbuzz) and makes bigger clouds to the expense of shortening the session. If you can get 1 1/2 hour from fusion with shiny side down, you can probably get 2 if you put the shiny side up and a bit more heat.
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Old March 15th, 2009, 12:07 PM
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there is no difference. I, by habit, put the shiny side up lol. I dont know why. I just do it that way. its up to you. most of the time i use a screen any way.
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Old March 15th, 2009, 12:49 PM
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SHINY SIDE DOOOOOOOOOOOOWNN DUUUUUUUDEEEE!
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Old March 15th, 2009, 01:27 PM
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there is no diff it all smokes the same puff puff
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Old March 15th, 2009, 02:25 PM
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I used to put it down, now i always put it up.....but then again my packing methods have improved so thats why it smokes better now
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Old March 15th, 2009, 02:34 PM
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It doesn't matter
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Old March 15th, 2009, 02:50 PM
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Am i the only one who can tell some difference
It definately there. If i put the shiby side down and leave the coals at the same spot for the whole session it will taste burned... if i put it up it will be fine...
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Old March 15th, 2009, 03:54 PM
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This might be an interesting read for you all
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Old March 15th, 2009, 04:11 PM
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I can't notice any difference, i still alternate from shiny side up/down to try and notice anything different, but i still can't. It could matter depending on different kinds of coals and setups, though.
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Old March 15th, 2009, 04:15 PM
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Packing a bowl shiny side up has been shown to dramaticly increase the chances of DMC coming to your house and kicking you in the balls and face
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Old March 15th, 2009, 04:43 PM
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LOL, i feel that it is so weird cause i can notice a big difference... Especially when i overpack (Tangiers, some Nakhla and some al-waha flavours).
My bowl only holds 5-6g of tobacco so any minor change affects it, even the shape of the coals.
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Old March 15th, 2009, 04:59 PM
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Am i the only one who can tell some difference
It definately there. If i put the shiby side down and leave the coals at the same spot for the whole session it will taste burned... if i put it up it will be fine...
it has got to be where your placing the coals or how your packing it. i can leave my coals in one spot for most of the session now and not get much of an issue, i usually put them on not hanging off at all to get it started fast, then move them and put them on the edge and can usually leave it for a while, if i hang them off the edge and let it heat up slowly i can leave them there for almost the whole session

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Old March 15th, 2009, 05:06 PM
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Shiny side DOWN always do the trick to a thick smoke for me.
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Old March 15th, 2009, 05:19 PM
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Default Re: Foil

i just use shiny down, not sure why, always told to do so, before i heard DMC, but im not gonna be like descarte and overthing it.
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Old March 15th, 2009, 05:29 PM
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never noticed a difference - i do shiny down, but sometimes forget and it doesnt seem to matter to me
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I think the original reason why we've been doing the shiny side down was SUPPOSED to be that the heat is more concentrated on the side with the shiny side... so shiny side down puts more heat into the bowl, shiny side up directs heat away from the bowl...

but i've also read somewhere that tests have been done to check this validity and the tests say that it doesn't really matter.

As with the others, shiny side down is a matter of habit. And i don't want DMC to hurt me
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Old March 15th, 2009, 06:39 PM
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DMC is my hero
i do shiny side down out of pure respect for him
honestly who else has the cajones in here to smoke dog food? thats what i though =]
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Old March 21st, 2009, 09:58 AM
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Packing a bowl shiny side up has been shown to dramaticly increase the chances of DMC coming to your house and kicking you in the balls and face
LOL good one
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