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Old March 25th, 2009, 08:25 PM
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Default madddd about smoking

hi everyone, this is just a post about another mad person after smoking.

I just smoked some al fakher grape

when i started, made 2 head on 2 bowl to smoke 2 hookah with friends

first 15 minutes were ok, kind of getting the flavor but thats it

after that everything just went wrong

tasting baddddddddddddddd badddd baddddd for no reason

its like that since 2009 lol, everything i smoke the hookah last 15minute of ok taste and after that its trouble after trouble...

wasted like 100g for 15minutes...

heres what i do, tell me what im doing wrong because i do this since i smoke with the same products and it worked great till january lol

chineese hookah
al fakher grape fresh
3king charcoal
pack it 2mm under the aluminium
1 coal on the top
normal amount of holes
cold water
everything tight and cleaned after every session

it is me or what?
im going to get the km and a phunnel bowl this summer but till then i gotta smoke with these and i gotta find a solution

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I used a garden hose once. I dont recommend it.

But I did have the hookah in the garage and was able to smoke while walking to get the mail
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Old March 25th, 2009, 08:30 PM
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Default Re: madddd about smoking

might be the new batch of al fakher.
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Old March 25th, 2009, 08:35 PM
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Default Re: madddd about smoking

what kind of bad?
harsh bad or sour taste bad?

if its harsh your probably using too many coals

also if your using 100g of shisha for 2 bowls your probably overpacking
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Old March 25th, 2009, 08:54 PM
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Does it taste like ketchup?
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Old March 25th, 2009, 08:55 PM
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Default Re: madddd about smoking

I have a hard time smoking Al Fakher. It doesnt get harsh for me, but its like a feeling that makes you go "Humph" while smoking from the flavor, even though little of it exists in the actual taste of the smoke. If it is like what im explaining then you need to let your shisha sit out for a few hours to accimilate and find an equilibrium with the humidity.
Otherwise, i say that your trying too hard.
- Just use one sheet of foil, maybe two.
-also, dont overpack
-and cut your coal in half and put halves on the sides...this is because having the coal in the middle will make your foil sag, bringing it closer to the shisha with every pull. thus causing it to burn regardless of your packing methods.
-And if you find that you dont get enough smoke when using two halves, then put on a windcover
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Old March 25th, 2009, 09:04 PM
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Default Re: madddd about smoking

i havent had any problems with AF. They all have great taste to me. The grape does taste like grape to me.. not ketchup. All of my AF is 2008 now.
There really isnt any trick... basically dont over pack (dont let the tobacco touch the foil). I can pack a bowl of AF throw a screen on (or foil) with two 1" pieces of exotica and not touch it until the bowl is dead.
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Old March 25th, 2009, 10:00 PM
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Default Re: madddd about smoking

Try using natural coals. Also make sure not to pack the tobacco in. Just sprinkle it in the bowl basically and even it out.
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that's al fakher for ya. can't expect a lot more.
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Old March 25th, 2009, 10:17 PM
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Default Re: madddd about smoking

what exatly was the bad taste? coal? bad af grape batch?
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Old March 25th, 2009, 10:51 PM
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What kind of coals? sounds like you are burning the tobacco to me.
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Old March 25th, 2009, 10:56 PM
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Default Re: madddd about smoking

Smoke Nahkla (or whatever else) not Al Fakher, use coals other than Three-Kings, and use more than one coal. Buy a vortex bowl and pack it to be about a half inch from the rim of the bowl. Punch holes in a circular pattern on the foil.
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Smoke Nahkla (or whatever else) not Al Fakher, use coals other than Three-Kings, and use more than one coal. Buy a vortex bowl and pack it to be about a half inch from the rim of the bowl. Punch holes in a circular pattern on the foil.
you cant just dismiss al fakher
nakhla has more of a natural taste and af has more of a candy taste
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sounds like overpacking to me, try a light pack next session and see
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you can never go wrong with good ole nakhla
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Old March 26th, 2009, 10:54 AM
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Default Re: madddd about smoking

why would this guy start a thread and never check it?
obviously we can't tell what he means by "bad"
bad either means harsh smoke or bad batch
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Old March 26th, 2009, 12:35 PM
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Default Re: madddd about smoking

sorry i didnt had time to check this thread yesterday because i want to a hookah bar after i wrote it , long time i didnt smoked a good and tasty flavor....

anyway by mad i mean, sometime its harsh , so i move the coal on the side , never touch the middle... but other time, it just taste bad, i cant describe it, its like smoking a burned shisha but when i remove the foil to see how it is, its just not burned but very hot, i would not say that its because the foil is touching the shisha because yesterday i tried a normal head ( putt shisha, 2-3 mm between shisha and foil then poke holes and putt 2 half three king coal on each side... and the second head was with the foil ring, same results for both of the heads

100g was for 4 head, 2 hookah 2 bowl

lets say its because of AF, what else is compared to it that i can get shipped to canada without paying the tobbaco fees?

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