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View Poll Results: What will you do?
I will still call tobacco shisha, even though it isnt. 33 30.00%
I will not call tobacco shisha, because it isnt. 45 40.91%
Fuck you guy 32 29.09%
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Old April 4th, 2009, 09:14 PM
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ahhh semantics again, i get enough in my bs phil class.

any way, i see why "shisha" for tobacco annoys people, but the modern american use of it is for the tobacco. when im around my friend who is pakistani i use tobacco and hookah as apposed to shisha and hookah because to him shisha mean the pipe (translation according to him it means "glass").

around my friends for the most part i use "shisha" but around middle easterners i use "tobacco" to make sure there is no confusion.

i just think since there is such a wide variety of terms in all this its hard to say one is "correct" or not. its like how we call drinking vessels "glasses" even though they are not always made from glass and use the same word for corrective lenses worn on the face

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Old April 4th, 2009, 09:16 PM
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Oh, and by the way, fuck you too, (to those 11 so far).
haha =]
its a sign of affection
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Old April 5th, 2009, 03:05 AM
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I always refer to a pipe as a hookah, shisha or narghile. I dislike calling the tobacco "shisha" I refer to it as hookah tobacco or shisha tobacco.
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I choose all 3 options.
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i think that the tobacco should never be called shisha it dosent make any sense?...
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Old April 5th, 2009, 04:12 AM
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This is how I say tobacco: tobacco. This is how I say herbal: herbal. I do not refer to tobacco as shisha because it isnt... Thanks photo for pointing these things out... I get people all the time in my lounge who come in and go can i get some shisha for my hookah.... and im like yah sure... its not worth trying to explain sometimes... but as for herbal vs tobacco... its just tobacco is this and herbal is that.
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Old April 5th, 2009, 06:24 AM
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lol good thread. contradictory to my vote, i think it'd do our community good to say the proper words.
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Old April 5th, 2009, 07:04 AM
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Since I have been smoking,I have called the tobacco shisha.
Learning about where Hookahs(Argileh,Lula,Ghelyoon,Chillim,Huqqa) originate, also as for Shisha(tobamel,molasses,masal,,tombak,jurak)has been part of the HOOKAH PRO experience.So I have come to accept any of those names in respect of where they come from.
So when we discuss these items on HOOKAH PRO,I don't get confused,I know what we are talking about,after all thats what HOOKAH PRO is about,right"Learning hookah".
If there was more acceptance in the world there would be more peace.As we all know when one culture forces another culture to do something.Something happens and it's called war.
I guess what I am saying is,there are alot of langauges out there and they should all be accepted.
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Old April 5th, 2009, 07:35 AM
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photo, you've got more Fuck You's than though it isn't's. LOL
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Old April 5th, 2009, 07:42 AM
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photo, you've got more Fuck You's than though it isn't's. LOL
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Old April 5th, 2009, 10:28 PM
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I call it shisha sometimes because I'm usually with friends who know it as shisha. It doesn't seem worth my time to educate them about it.
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I do what i wonts to do, if i want to call it Fruity nasty then i will lol
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I refuse to conform. I will continue to call them haubbly baubbly.
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Old April 5th, 2009, 10:44 PM
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seriously though, if this was english it would be like this.

lets say i enjoy smoking my pipe. i want to purcahse some more pipe tobacco. i go to a store and ask to get some more pipe for my pipe....

it just sounds stupid.
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wow...honestly just let people say what they wanna say
if you know its wrong then let it go and be the better person
yes i understand that you are trying to "educate the community"
but they have been trying to use that for decades and it hasnt gotten very far
this is just coming off as some you veterans complaining about everything

me honestly with my friends i call it shisha and with people of higher stature i call
it tobacco, see how the community still functions. ahh bliss!
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Old April 5th, 2009, 11:17 PM
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Default Re: Lets try to use the right words

stubbornness isnt ignorance.

this was a post to inform the general public of a words actual meaning.
this wasnt meant to bash anyone.
this post even mentions the understanding that people would continue to use a word incorrectly-thats why that option was put in.

getting butt hurt about the existence of this post because of stubbornness wont get you anywhere. if it bothers you to read the correct usage that much...just let it go.
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everytime i read this thread it makes me laugh cuz of everyone cussing at photo through the poll =]
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Old April 6th, 2009, 05:30 AM
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in germany its like in britain - we call the pipes shisha and the tobacco tobacco.
its just the stupid american hookah scene, which calls the pipes hookah and tobacco shisha
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lol, i just see it as jargon of the community, many things are wrong names technically, like how people call anti-roll/anti-sway bars "sway bars", or how brits call a flash light a torch, in glass working there is a tool called a "lathe" but it is like a bench grinder in the operation and no where near a lathe. technically they are misnomers but with in communities of technical info/hobby groups/etc there are many of these.

i understand the translated meaning of it but a small portion of hookah smokers use it for the pipe or for the tobacco (heck for either it is a misnomer since it means glass and most of the pipe isnt glass), there are like what 5-6 generally used names for a hookah, and 3 names for the moassel/shisha style of tobacco along with the 2-3 other types/names of tobacco.

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Pst Photolinger here in SA if you asked for a Hookah you will receive a lady of dubious reputation who will do mostly anything for money but if you talk of a Hubbly Bubbly they will know what you are talking about.
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Pst Photolinger here in SA if you asked for a Hookah you will receive a lady of dubious reputation who will do mostly anything for money but if you talk of a Hubbly Bubbly they will know what you are talking about.
i guess what you mean is a hooker
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on stickam we get that a lot.

"dude where are the women at, this is the hooker lounge right?"

the best part is when tween girls are looking for the hookers....ah the new american idea of family.
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I just don't care. I would use natural coals if I really did care about correcting myself. But I'm too stubborn. Besides I call some brands tobacco while others get called shyt.
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stubbornness isnt ignorance.

this was a post to inform the general public of a words actual meaning.
this wasnt meant to bash anyone.
this post even mentions the understanding that people would continue to use a word incorrectly-thats why that option was put in.

getting butt hurt about the existence of this post because of stubbornness wont get you anywhere. if it bothers you to read the correct usage that much...just let it go.
oh dayum...PWNED
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hey photo, so what would you suggest calling products like saalaam, HH black, and soex?
myself i would call it shit, but what would you call it?

because you can't say "herbal shisha", "herbal tobacco", etc.

what do you think?
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