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Old April 10th, 2009, 06:01 PM
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hi guys, i was wondering how do you get the thick clouds when you smoke?

whenever i pack my own bowl i get these wispy little things. i know you need clearance between the foil, but can you give too much? i have this trouble with all my setups, i was using a ss rig with a clear glass bowl not too long ago, after i couldn't get the clouds i wanted i thought i packed too much so i removed some but no help. dose the coal matter? i get these fairly large belgian charcols.

any help is appreciated thanks
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Old April 10th, 2009, 06:04 PM
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what are you smoking?,explain the way you setup.
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Old April 10th, 2009, 06:06 PM
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What are you smoking?

If you are packing the shisha too tight, it will restrict airflow
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Old April 10th, 2009, 06:11 PM
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i have this orange cream al-waha i think, in a sahara smoke clear glass bowl, and the large belgian coals. the pipe is a ss to im pretty sure. with some no name hose out of iraq
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Old April 10th, 2009, 06:18 PM
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hmm i think i should have found some of the existing threads first...dugh
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Old April 10th, 2009, 06:28 PM
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see what you can find from other threads, but if you still arent having luck post some pictures of your whole packing process and we'll try to help
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Old April 10th, 2009, 06:36 PM
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Yeah the "big clouds" topic comes up every week. My answer from now on is... Pile on the coals and enjoy your choke! LOL
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Old April 10th, 2009, 06:38 PM
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What I am thinking is that you are packing the tobacco to tight and heat management. Try fluffing your tobacco and or use a windcover.!!!
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Old April 10th, 2009, 06:40 PM
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Yeah the "big clouds" topic comes up every week. My answer from now on is... Pile on the coals and enjoy your choke! LOL
why go to the trouble, just throw a glob of shisha in your mouth with five or six coals and go for it.
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Old April 10th, 2009, 06:50 PM
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Default Re: packing the perfect bowl?

break apart your shisha so that it isnt clumpy beforehand
sprinkle it onto your bowl (dont pack it) and leave about half an inch between the tobacco and the foil
put your coals around the outer edge of the bowl and rotate them as you go
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Old April 10th, 2009, 10:20 PM
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Default Re: packing the perfect bowl?

al waha does not have huge clouds.

as to the perfect pack, i have started packing differently than i used to. i pack it loosely in (very loose) to the rim and then kind of tamp it down harder than you "normally" pack and make the gap more. you are able to be more aggressive with your heat (gives a bit more smoke and more even over the whole bowl) but the flavor is a touch different but not bad in any way.

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Default Re: packing the perfect bowl?

I might be able to give some advice...

When you put the coals on your bowl, make sure you don't hear any sizzling noises. If you do, then move the coals outward more towards the edge of the bowl. This will keep the tobacco baked and not burned. After I started to do this, I got really good smoke that didn't go harsh b/c the tobacco was baking and not burning at all.
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hmm. ill try latter tonight after i get off work. i tried last night with the little square coals and got better smoke with the orange cream.

and if your supposed to have 1/2 an inch clearance then that might be what i was doing wrong. i give it clearance but not a lot. thanks guys!
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Old April 11th, 2009, 01:39 PM
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hmm. ill try latter tonight after i get off work. i tried last night with the little square coals and got better smoke with the orange cream.

and if your supposed to have 1/2 an inch clearance then that might be what i was doing wrong. i give it clearance but not a lot. thanks guys!
1/2 inch of clearance? most bowls are barely that deep, you ned like 1/8th -3/16 of a gap

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1/2 inch of clearance? most bowls are barely that deep, you ned like 1/8th -3/16 of a gap

-matt
haha yeah, my reg bowl is a 1/2 inch deep.
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Yeah the "big clouds" topic comes up every week. My answer from now on is... Pile on the coals and enjoy your choke! LOL
....uh oh, maybe i have to do something else now
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Default Re: packing the perfect bowl?

what I did was bought a vortex bowl.
The outside of the bowl is slightly higher than the center of the bowl(which is the flavor saver).what you want to do is fluff your tobacco into the bowl and use a pickle fork to level the tobacco with the center.That should leave the proper clearance between the foil and the tobacco.put 20-25 holes in the foil. Use whatever coals you want. If your Al waha is to dry add some,some honey.
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Old April 12th, 2009, 01:41 PM
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got it. i was giving too much clearance
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the perfect bowl

throw some nakhla in there and you will be fine


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