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Old May 12th, 2009, 06:38 AM
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My cousin in Israel is buying me a Hookah because it's loads cheaper there.

He told me the guy said it's Ager. Ager sounds Arab... and according to a Google search, they a are a company (Akhla) based in Israel that also makes the Nakhla tobacco.

And yet these forums state that Ager are Chinese made.

So based on the pictures would you say it's Ager and/or Chinese?

Also, I don't have it yet, so I can't inspect it. Do those look like quality hoses?



Oh... and does that look like real copper (will I have to deal with oxidation)?
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Old May 12th, 2009, 07:10 AM
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That is definitely a chinese rig. The hoses are standard chinese hoses. You should upgrade them when you get it.
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Old May 12th, 2009, 08:45 AM
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Is the rig itself any good though?
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Old May 12th, 2009, 08:50 AM
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most likely chinese.....it will be of average generic quality.
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Old May 12th, 2009, 10:29 AM
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Ya it's a chinese rig. It could smoke like a dream but most likely not. If it is en route then whatever. Enjoy and make sure to clean/dry it every time you smoke to prevent corrosion. If it has not been sent or bought yet maybe he can get tsomething more traditional lol. Try not to insult him though. Then you get nothing.
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Old May 12th, 2009, 10:54 AM
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Thanks for the replies.
well it's already purchased so I don't know if it's returnable.
I'm also not sure I can explain to him how to differentiate between the non-Chinese and Chinese ones.

I do find it funny that he bought a Chinese rig from an Arab flea market

Will it at least be better than my current setup (also from an Arab market in Israel and presumably Chinese)?



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Old May 12th, 2009, 11:01 AM
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Thanks for the replies.
well it's already purchased so I don't know if it's returnable.
I'm also not sure I can explain to him how to differentiate between the non-Chinese and Chinese ones.

I do find it funny that he bought a Chinese rig from an Arab flea market

Will it at least be better than my current setup (also from an Arab market in Israel and presumably Chinese)?


That rig appears Egyptian. There is no way for us to tell you as we have not smoked from either rig. You are going to be the best judge. Check out the sticky on the differences between the different styles of shisha. That will help you make a proper assessment. Bear in mind that there are lemons and gems in every category.
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Old May 12th, 2009, 12:53 PM
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How does the differences between Shisha affect the differences between the hookahs?

Wish hookahs were more organized... IE all had a serial number or easily identifiable or something.
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Old May 12th, 2009, 01:05 PM
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It looks cool im not going to lie about that, but if it is Chinese well then its like winning the lottery with hookah's. Some smoke great, some don't. But i can say one thing they done not purge for crap. Well good luck
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Old May 12th, 2009, 01:12 PM
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How does the differences between Shisha affect the differences between the hookahs?

Wish hookahs were more organized... IE all had a serial number or easily identifiable or something.
Shisha is NOT the definition of the Tobacco, Shisha Referse to the Hookah it's self.

Hookah, Shisha, Narghile, Hubbly Bubbly. ALL THE SAME THING, each of these terms refer to the hookah itself, NOT the tobacco.

I know the tobacco has been constantly refered to as "Shisha" but this is
incorrect.

Those of us that have learned that shisha refers to the actual pipe are using the term Shisha in it's correct context.

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Old May 12th, 2009, 04:18 PM
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I've always called it either hookah or shisha as hookah is the accepted US term. To me tobacco is tobacco so I call it shisha tobacco. Just the way I have always known it.
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Old May 12th, 2009, 05:23 PM
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Its definitly a chinese rig, the base it top notch quality tho, but the stem is not, i have one thats similar and the base is pretty unbreakable, ive dropped it on marble and it still didn't crack
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Old May 12th, 2009, 06:56 PM
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Sorry... my mind went to tobacco since everyone here has been referring to the tobacco when saying shisha.

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Its definitly a chinese rig, the base it top notch quality tho, but the stem is not, i have one thats similar and the base is pretty unbreakable, ive dropped it on marble and it still didn't crack
Would you say the stem from pic #6 is better than that stem?
What makes the stem bad btw?

Thanks for all your responses guys
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Old May 12th, 2009, 08:43 PM
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Sorry... my mind went to tobacco since everyone here has been referring to the tobacco when saying shisha.


Would you say the stem from pic #6 is better than that stem?
What makes the stem bad btw?

Thanks for all your responses guys
Pic #6? I don't know what you mean here?
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Old May 12th, 2009, 09:58 PM
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For being a chinese rig, it looks great and im sure it will smoke fine. But in a way its good to start off with a cheaper rig. One, is so you can upgrade later
Two, so you see the difference between a cheaper hookah and a nice KM or Syrian
Three, so you have two hookahs later and the chinese one you can bring to parties and not get your pants in a bunch if something happens to it.
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Old May 12th, 2009, 10:53 PM
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I'm also not sure I can explain to him how to differentiate between the non-Chinese and Chinese ones.


tell him to look at the hose ports.
if they can unscrew then it is most likely a chinese hookah.
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Old May 13th, 2009, 02:54 AM
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Pic #6? I don't know what you mean here?
Sorry... meant the pic in post #6:
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For being a chinese rig, it looks great and im sure it will smoke fine. But in a way its good to start off with a cheaper rig. One, is so you can upgrade later
Two, so you see the difference between a cheaper hookah and a nice KM or Syrian
Three, so you have two hookahs later and the chinese one you can bring to parties and not get your pants in a bunch if something happens to it.
Well this isn't my first hookah. My first is the one I pictured in this post. That's exactly why I'm so intent on getting one that smokes well.

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tell him to look at the hose ports.
if they can unscrew then it is most likely a chinese hookah.
The ports themselves unscrew? I thought the cheap part about Chinese was that it's all one piece.

One of the posts said the one I already have is Egyptian. I'm pretty sure it's Chinese though because the purge sucks and I checked and it's a plated common chamber.
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Old May 13th, 2009, 03:51 AM
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That is definitely a chinese rig. The hoses are standard chinese hoses. You should upgrade them when you get it.
Also... how can you tell a good chinese hose from a "standard chinese hose"
Like this Mya you guys consider good right? http://www.hookah-shisha.com/store/p...idproduct=1414

Which looks the same as the hose I have right now and the two that my cousin is holding. The hoses he bought were "upgraded" from the ones that came with the Hookah. He said their price was about double of the hoses that he would have gotten with the hookah.
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Old May 13th, 2009, 06:58 AM
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CHECK THIS LINK OUT
Ager is made by the same company as nakhla tobacco as i understand

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Old May 13th, 2009, 07:23 AM
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He told me the guy said it's Ager. Ager sounds Arab... and according to a Google search, they a are a company (Akhla) based in Israel that also makes the Nakhla tobacco.
(resists the urge to speak politics ..... ummmm .... grrrrr ...... oooooomph)

Dude ..... Nakhla tobacco is made by Nakhla ..... Nakhla is an Egyptian company ..... Nakhla is definitely not Israeli. The website posted is not affiliated with Nakhla, whose official website is www.nakhla.com

Nakhla doesn't even have an agent in Israel and you can check their website.

Apparently anything that is good and Egyptian is called at some point Israeli (The Pyramids, Sinai Peninsula, Falafel, and now Nakhla !!)
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Old May 13th, 2009, 07:40 AM
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Ya... don't get political.
http://nakhla-tobacco.com/ and http://akhlafactory.com/ is what I was referencing. The number +972... is Israeli. That's all I was referring to.

LETS GET BACK ON TOPIC THOUGH so no more politics about pyramids, k?
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Old May 13th, 2009, 08:07 AM
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Ya... don't get political.
http://nakhla-tobacco.com/ and http://akhlafactory.com/ is what I was referencing. The number +972... is Israeli. That's all I was referring to.

LETS GET BACK ON TOPIC THOUGH so no more politics about pyramids, k?
As I said, www.nakhla.com is the official website for Nakhla .... The number is +20 .... It's Egyptian .... So nakhla-tobacco.com and akhlafactory.com websites are not official and have no merit..... No one can argue the fact that Nakhla is Egyptian. The packs - sold worldwide - say Made in Egypt. If some rogue websites decide otherwise, it's pretty much like me setting up my own BMW website with a +20 number and saying that BMWs are Egyptian not German !

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Old May 13th, 2009, 09:30 AM
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What evidence do you have that your rig is Chinese beyond the purge sucking?
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Old May 13th, 2009, 11:17 AM
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The ports themselves unscrew? I thought the cheap part about Chinese was that it's all one piece.
Yes if the hose ports unscrew than it is most likely a chinese hookah. I know some syrians unscrew too but it is most common in chinese hookahs. Most people consider chinses hookahs cheap because some of the chinese hookahs use crappy metal and the common chamber design of chinese hookahs makes it tougher to purge.

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Also... how can you tell a good chinese hose from a "standard chinese hose"
Like this Mya you guys consider good right? http://www.hookah-shisha.com/store/p...idproduct=1414

Which looks the same as the hose I have right now and the two that my cousin is holding. The hoses he bought were "upgraded" from the ones that came with the Hookah. He said their price was about double of the hoses that he would have gotten with the hookah.
The new Mya hoses now have Mya printed all over them. The wood on the handles also have a bit more weight to them and don't feel as cheap as the no name chinese hoses.
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Old May 13th, 2009, 02:32 PM
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What evidence do you have that your rig is Chinese beyond the purge sucking?
None really... I'll be honest, I have no idea how to tell.
Just that it's a common plated chamber and the metal seems cheap (but it might just be because I haven't shined it).

If you have the hookah in your hands, how can you tell then?

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The new Mya hoses now have Mya printed all over them. The wood on the handles also have a bit more weight to them and don't feel as cheap as the no name chinese hoses.
But what actually makes Mya better? If they're both not washable and have the same diameter/pull, is there really a difference between cheap and branded?
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