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Old May 13th, 2009, 03:06 PM
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Even doing it the way you are suggesting, each venue you go to will need a retail tobacco license. Without this a business can be fined very heavily for serving hookah even if it is on the weekends. Many laws come into effect when you try dealing with tobacco. Each city is also different with their laws. I would just do some heavy researching and contacting city personnel and state tobacco agency before starting or elese you could be looking at many fines.
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Old May 13th, 2009, 03:22 PM
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The smoke can not infultrate any other area and acording to the city the only way to make that happen is to have the "stand alone building".
Wrong on that count with a decent air ventilation and scrubber system in place the air your space will vent will be cleaner than the air you breathe normally outside. Here in SA the Anti pollution crowd has gotten a bee in their bonnets about smoking sections in Bars lounges ect and air curtains are the norm as well as independent aircons and air purging systems for such establishments. so before any air is vented from that area it is scrubbed and then relased (thus sending out cleaner air than originaly taken in) The air curtain prevents any of the smoky air from getting out so it has to go through the scrubbers.

(yeah I know my spelling is bad )
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Old May 13th, 2009, 04:34 PM
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Wrong on that count with a decent air ventilation and scrubber system in place the air your space will vent will be cleaner than the air you breathe normally outside. Here in SA the Anti pollution crowd has gotten a bee in their bonnets about smoking sections in Bars lounges ect and air curtains are the norm as well as independent aircons and air purging systems for such establishments. so before any air is vented from that area it is scrubbed and then relased (thus sending out cleaner air than originaly taken in) The air curtain prevents any of the smoky air from getting out so it has to go through the scrubbers.

(yeah I know my spelling is bad )
But what if he wants smoking outside....
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Old May 13th, 2009, 08:36 PM
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hear is a excerpt from the county smoke free ordinance.

[FONT=Georgia]Fargo Cass Public Health Smoke-Free Ordinance [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia]Guidelines[/FONT]

[FONT=Georgia]Fargo Cass Public Health is responsible for enforcement of the smoking ban within the city of Fargo recently enacted at the city election of June 10, 2008. The voters approved a city ordinance identical to the North Dakota state smoking law except that in Fargo, smoking is prohibited in bars, truck stops and rental halls. This document has been prepared to provide guidance to individuals and businesses as to the current legal requirements under which smoking may be allowed and to identify when and where smoking is prohibited. These guidelines are intended to provide assistance and information, but those seeking to allow indoor smoking are responsible for obtaining and maintaining compliance and are therefore advised to seek their own professional advice. Fargo smoking law will be interpreted in favor of the general prohibition against smoking in enclosed public places and places of employment.[/FONT]

[LIST=1][*][FONT=Georgia]Retail Tobacco Store -- smoking is permitted in a retail tobacco store, provided that smoke from the store does not infiltrate into areas where smoking is prohibited under city ordinance.[/FONT][/LIST]
[LIST][FONT=Georgia]A “Retail tobacco store” is defined as a retail store utilized primarily for the sale of tobacco products and accessories and in which the sale of other products is merely incidental.[/FONT]
[/LIST] [LIST][FONT=Georgia]In order to qualify as a retail tobacco store in which smoking is allowed:[/FONT]
[/LIST] [LIST][LIST][FONT=Georgia]A. The location must have a recognizably separate identity from any other associated or affiliated business activity. Otherwise, the affiliated business may be deemed to be the primary business, in which case smoking may not be allowed in the tobacco store. Smoking will not be lawful in a “tobacco department” or “tobacco section” of a larger business establishment. [/FONT]
[/LIST][/LIST] [LIST][LIST][FONT=Georgia]B. Sale of products other than tobacco or tobacco-related products must only be “merely incidental” to the sale of the tobacco products. Fargo Cass Public Health deems “merely incidental” to be a minimal level of non tobacco-related sales. [/FONT]
[/LIST][/LIST] [LIST][LIST][FONT=Georgia]C. As the city ordinance clearly states, smoking is allowed in a qualifying retail tobacco store, but only if smoke from the store does not infiltrate into areas where smoking is prohibited by law. Worldwide health studies have established that it is nearly, if not completely, impossible to prevent tobacco smoke from infiltrating from one room to other rooms within a single building. Therefore, the only way to guarantee non-infiltration by smoke is for the retail tobacco store to be a free-standing building or facility.[/FONT]








[/LIST][/LIST] [LIST=1][*][FONT=Georgia]Smoking shelters – because smoking is prohibited in all enclosed public places and enclosed places of employment (subject to specific exemptions), businesses and employers may be seeking to establish so-called “smoking shelters” that provide some shelter from the rain, cold and other weather elements, but are not enclosed as defined by law. “Enclosed area” means all space between a floor and ceiling that is enclosed on all sides by solid walls or windows, exclusive of doorways, which extend from the floor to the ceiling. Windows, doors and other solid materials are part of the surface area forming the enclosure. Combination glass/screen windows or doors that may be “open” or “closed” will not be counted toward the open space in a shelter, as they may, or may not, be open at any particular time.[/FONT][/LIST]
[LIST][FONT=Georgia]Each wall of a smoking shelter should provide an opening of at least twenty-five percent (25%) of the surface area of such wall. The percentage of the opening is calculated based on the surface area below the ceiling. [/FONT]
[/LIST] [FONT=Georgia]Applications for smoking shelter permits may be obtained from the City Building Inspections Office, 701-241-1561. Approval will be routed to offices of Engineering, Fire, Planning and Health before final approval by the office of Building Inspections.[/FONT]

[FONT=Georgia]Smoke-free tool kits for businesses along with copies of the Fargo ordinance are available at smokefreefargo.org. Questions may be directed to Bette Deede at Fargo Cass Public Health, 701-476-4148. [/FONT]
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Old May 13th, 2009, 11:03 PM
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^^ thats why the hookah "club" is easier to get compliance to the laws since it is a private building

also you could probably argue to allow a hookah bar in a strip mall if you do not allow cigs/cigars/pipes since you can legally argue that hookah is not smoked but steamed and therefore not regulated by these laws, honestly even the spirit of the law and to get a little lose to truly cover hookah (at least when smoking a modern wet tobacco that is basically the only thing widely smoked in the states)

-matt
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