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Old May 14th, 2009, 07:03 PM
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Ok so recently popped my Phunnel virginity and I have to say I immediately jumped onto the bandwagon, its not that much of a big thing in the UK (from what I know), only 1 online shop has started to sell them. But neway Ive been smoking using the coco naras and have had great smoke clouds (so much smoke that even after blowing it out when i talk its still there).

However I find that using the normal Electric stove which I have in the UK (such as http://allnaturalkitchens.com/hobs/n...ectric_hob.jpg) the coals lights nicely one one side only, there is no air getting to one side of the coal ill flip it over to distribute the heat to both sides but once ive placed them on the bowl the side facing the foil tends to go black and "burns out" the top(side facing up) is nice and hot and i find myself flipping the coal over alot and having to blow on it as alot of the time there is a black circle in the middle of the Coal.

Is there anything I can do to make sure the coal is Heated from the core, ie maybe use a chefs blow torch to heat it.

Suggestions/techniques/peoples methods on heating natural coals (not on the coil hob) would be great

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Old May 14th, 2009, 07:07 PM
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my coals always die on one side while I'm smoking to fix this I just flip the coal during my sessions.
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Old May 14th, 2009, 07:17 PM
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And when you've lit them, are they red hot to the core or tend to go dark pretty quick?
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Old May 14th, 2009, 07:18 PM
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I would blow on them too but I found that would make me lightheaded. I used the bellows we use for the fireplace to blow air and heat up the coals. It works really well and I don't get lightheaded. These are probably not really commonplace but if you have one they work well.


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Old May 14th, 2009, 07:24 PM
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well I adopted a few tricks my dad would use on the BBQ, most times ill get a container lid and fan the coals it sends sparks everywhere which is fun watching people shift when i do it, it means that alot of the time ive started a little fire on the electric (non fire) hob lol. Has ne1 tried using a chefs torch, and how long would you suggest I leave the coals on the hob for as i find if i leave them on a while (long enough to hopefully heat the core) they've shrunk in size and have already ashed over slightly which is annoying as im killing the smoking time on those badboys
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Old May 14th, 2009, 07:29 PM
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u reckon i should be using a windcover indoors to make sure the heat is contained?
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Old May 14th, 2009, 07:38 PM
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using the windcover indoors will help contain the heat but u still need to ash and flip the coals frequently... my coals also get black on one side so i just flip them.. no need to blow on them.. it'll fix itself
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Old May 14th, 2009, 07:43 PM
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Depending on your setup and the kind of tobacco you might need to use a windcover indoors just for better heat management. I usually use it with my vortex bowl, but sometimes it isn't necessary.
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Old May 14th, 2009, 08:12 PM
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I only ash my cocos about 3 times for their duration and i flip them when im moving them around the edges of the bowl every 10 min or so, it doesnt bother me much. As long as the smoke/flavor is big and theres no burning, then theres no need to be concerned about this. Windcover does help, just use it on/off indoors.
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to keep my coals hot I have a long coal tray and I do the awesome ninjitsu spin maneuver to keep them hot when I need!



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LOL where did you find that gif? thats great
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Old May 14th, 2009, 10:06 PM
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the side down will go out, i even found on the coconaras that some times the tops got a little black. as long as you dont get any bad tastes i would worry about it.

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LOL where did you find that gif? thats great
i saw that on h-s. it shows a way to light hella coals fast...and that's pretty much it haha
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Old May 16th, 2009, 02:29 AM
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invest in a portable gas stove, i picked one up for 15 bucks here in australia.
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Old May 16th, 2009, 07:32 AM
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I use a kitchen blowtorch, does the job, gets the coals so hot, i only need 1 coco nara for a good smoke.
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Old May 16th, 2009, 08:31 AM
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let them sit on the stove for about five minutes on one side and 4 on the other.
that's how i get mine to get bright red. then i flip them about twice while i'm smoking and they usually get a little dark, but they can't stay blazing red, or they'll burn the shisha.
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Default Re: Lighting Natural Coals

COIL STOVE MAN, COIL STOVE! ONLY $10! or like 7.5 pounds! it's worth it!
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COIL STOVE MAN, COIL STOVE! ONLY $10! or like 7.5 pounds! it's worth it!
from what i remember hearing they are rather hard to come across over there due to some of the safety things on appliances over there
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Yeah, i couldn't find a coil stove anywhere here Fortunatelly i have a really old portable electric stove which works pretty well, but I don't want to know how much electricity it uses when it lights my coals
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Old May 16th, 2009, 04:46 PM
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If ure a DIY fan I'll reccomend this Build the thingie I drew lower and put ure coal in after u light em half way. Figure out the construction details yourself, like making a foil tube and attaching the cooler ( reccomend tape . .lots of tape) and keep flamable and toxic materials away from the cans . .the seal doesnt have to be perfect. Trust me on this - I'm a hobby blacksmith, i know my coal.
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If ure a DIY fan I'll reccomend this Build the thingie I drew lower and put ure coal in after u light em half way. Figure out the construction details yourself, like making a foil tube and attaching the cooler ( reccomend tape . .lots of tape) and keep flamable and toxic materials away from the cans . .the seal doesnt have to be perfect. Trust me on this - I'm a hobby blacksmith, i know my coal.
haha nice, making a mini blower forge, i like

honestly the best option for those in europe, i would think, is a little camp stove, ya you have to pay for gas but you can at least get them pretty easily.

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this is the best option imo:


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kitchen-Craf.../dp/B0001IWYAU
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