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Old May 30th, 2009, 08:08 AM
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Angry New KM Hookah And Nakhla Double Apple... :'( !!!!!

I got my new 36" km hookah from john today (Hookah is in very good condition, I am very pleased with it ) and smoked it when i got home. I used Nakhla Double Apple but i didnt really get much flavour and after about 20 mins i felt really really sick and had to stop smoking and pack it up :S

I have watched videos of "How to smoke hookah" so i kinda know what im doing, the shisha was burned a little bit, would it have been that?

But other than that i dont know what was wrong, i got a HUGE!!!!! buzz from it but then just felt ill

Any advice?

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Old May 30th, 2009, 08:49 AM
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Did you wash the hookah good before using it?
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Old May 30th, 2009, 08:52 AM
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don't be afraid to experiment w/your heat levels as well. You may have just been burning your tobacco, although DA is pretty forgiving w/regards to heat.
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Old May 30th, 2009, 08:56 AM
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Did you wash the hookah good before using it?
hmm no i didnt, i guess i was just in a hurry to smoke it XD
i shall wash it out and smoke it sometime.
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Old May 30th, 2009, 09:02 AM
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When I got my MZ I washed it and there was black stuff that came from the stem. Not sure if it was dust from sitting around for awhile, or some sort of rust preventitive. I'm betting if I wouldn't have washed the hookah first that it would have at the very least effected the flavor.
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When I got my MZ I washed it and there was black stuff that came from the stem. Not sure if it was dust from sitting around for awhile, or some sort of rust preventitive. I'm betting if I wouldn't have washed the hookah first that it would have at the very least effected the flavor.
Ok, thanks.
I was just really upset because i have just bought a new hookah and my first go on it was a disaster, i will experement and stuff but i dont think i did anything badly wrong.
But i will clean it out good and proper and try again.
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If you don't wash it first it will be gross. Kms have black goo in the stem usually and it is fucking sick.
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Old May 30th, 2009, 09:25 AM
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Ok, thanks.
I was just really upset because i have just bought a new hookah and my first go on it was a disaster, i will experement and stuff but i dont think i did anything badly wrong.
But i will clean it out good and proper and try again.
regardless of what the problem may be don't get disappointed if your first few goes aren't a success. You'll get it down soon enough and you'll be smokin' like a champ! good luck!!!
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Default Re: New KM Hookah And Nakhla Double Apple... :'( !!!!!

And the sickness could be the DA,too much nicotine buzz can make you nauseaous and headachey.
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Give us an update of how the 2nd time went. Also do you have any other sisha to try? If not HP has a good source of info on how to get it going and if you still are having trouble call me so we can walk through it, thanks
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headache sounds like you didnt wait long enough before smoking with quick light coal. its the carbon monoxide giving you the massive headache that medication cant fix
"not much flavour" - maybe it wasnt even hot enough :O
i really hate quick lights but i have no choice unless we're having a bbq. i'm so desperate to try coconut coal but i cant find any in the uk. i cook my quicklights on a stove when i'm at home and they smoke rally well but dont last long at all.
whatever coal youre using, make sure there are no black spots at all, and then wait for the center to warm up too so theres no hidden blackness inside. it could take a while but it will be worth it
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headache sounds like you didnt wait long enough before smoking with quick light coal. its the carbon monoxide giving you the massive headache that medication cant fix
"not much flavour" - maybe it wasnt even hot enough :O
i really hate quick lights but i have no choice unless we're having a bbq. i'm so desperate to try coconut coal but i cant find any in the uk. i cook my quicklights on a stove when i'm at home and they smoke rally well but dont last long at all.
whatever coal youre using, make sure there are no black spots at all, and then wait for the center to warm up too so theres no hidden blackness inside. it could take a while but it will be worth it
I didnt wait that long before smoking so that probably didnt help, but i used good natural coals and it was definatly hot enough. And i think the coals were done all over but i shall leave them on there longer next time.
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Just sounds like nicotine to me. Nakhla DA is pretty kicky with the nicotine. Just take it slow and smoke with some other people so if you take a drag it's a little bit before the hose gets back to you. That way you can avoid getting nic sick.
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I got my new 36" km hookah from john today and smoked it when i got home. I used Nakhla Double Apple but i didnt really get much flavour and after about 20 mins i felt really really sick and had to stop smoking and pack it up :S

I have watched videos of "How to smoke hookah" so i kinda know what im doing, the shisha was burned a little bit, would it have been that?

But other than that i dont know what was wrong, i got a HUGE!!!!! buzz from it but then just felt ill

Any advice?

Thankyou
Have you smoked Nak before?

Could of been Nicasickness . I have gotten Nicasick in 20 minutes before (fline tangiers) and I just felt like shit for 4 hours

If it was a headache it was most likely your Quicklights
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Default Re: New KM Hookah And Nakhla Double Apple... :'( !!!!!

This is my first time with Nakhla and it wasnt headache, i used natural coals. It was just feeling sick
What do you think is a good brand to start with?
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nakhla is fine
just take it easy on the pulls
drink lots of water
and eat a meal before you smoke
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nakhla is fine
just take it easy on the pulls
drink lots of water
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Haha lol i did all of these wrong XD
I was taking big ish puffs to try to 'get it going'
I hadnt eaten for most of he day
And i didnt drink anything.
well i will try again next week with all of this advice and see how it goes

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for first time setting up hookah sounds about normal to get a buzz i know i did the first time but yeah just wash it out and do it over Practice makes perfect welcome to hookahpro tho
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regardless of what the problem may be don't get disappointed if your first few goes aren't a success. You'll get it down soon enough and you'll be smokin' like a champ! good luck!!!
Yes that is absolutely correct! Patience is the key my friend. Wash your hookah out and start off with moderate heat, and if you feel you need a bit more then add a bit and see how you come out. As long as the flavour is ok, you're good man. Don't worry about clouds just yet, flavour first. Also, Nakhla will get your head if you aren't used to it. Good luck my friend!

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Haha lol i did all of these wrong XD
I was taking big ish puffs to try to 'get it going'
I hadnt eaten for most of he day
And i didnt drink anything.
well i will try again next week with all of this advice and see how it goes
LOL yep there you go. All the above is the culprit. Nakhla is an excellent tobacco. It does have higher nicotine than you probably expected. Just like Felifeliwoo said, take your time between pulls. Take slow gentle hits. space them out like 1 to 2 min. Drink plenty of water while you smoke it helps to filter out the nicotine in your blood. And most important EAT before you smoke. Never smoke on an empty stomach if you are very new to hookah. Even a veteran smoker will get sick on an empty stomach sometimes.
Once you follow everyones helpful tips you will have enjoyable sessions. It takes time to learn.
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This is my first time with Nakhla and it wasnt headache, i used natural coals. It was just feeling sick
What do you think is a good brand to start with?
Thanks
While I myself never let my supply of Nak DA ever run out, I would suggest trying the Mizo line if your not getting the results you want from the regular DA. The Mizo apple is a fantastic alternative to regular DA and easy to learn on. Any of the Mizo line to be honest is heavenly, but the apple is primo if your looking for that double apple flavor.
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