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Old June 20th, 2009, 03:27 PM
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Hey! My friend told me that Al Waha Cherry is good, so because i couldn't choose which one to pick, i bought that one with an Al Waha Peach. Both 250g.
The Al Waha Peach is awesome, just as before. But the Cherry is BAD BAD BAD.
I fill small amount, harsh, big amount, harsh, just right amount, harsh. Small holes, big holes, few, many, much water, little water, glycerin. I've tried everything, but it's harsh. It's not that typical harsh smoke, when you feel like somethings pushing your throat (like smoking your first cigarette or something, you know), i'm talking about the harsh smoke when it feels like you're inhaling sand or something. Little a million little dustmotes are irritating your throat.
So, i still have much left of that tobacco. What do you do in this situation? Just don't care about it and buy some good stuff or maybe some special tricks?
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Old June 20th, 2009, 03:31 PM
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Interesting problem. I'm not 100% sure but isn't there counterfeit al waha on the market? Anyone care to chime in on this?
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Old June 20th, 2009, 03:35 PM
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Maybe there are. But i'm sure mine isn't fake. Ordered it from the biggest hookah webshop in my country. Yeah, you could say "that doesn't mean they don't sell fake ones", but i just don't think it's possible.
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Old June 20th, 2009, 03:39 PM
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In that case I would suggest moving on to another brand/flavor. good luck!
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Old June 20th, 2009, 04:51 PM
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Maybe there are. But i'm sure mine isn't fake. Ordered it from the biggest hookah webshop in my country. Yeah, you could say "that doesn't mean they don't sell fake ones", but i just don't think it's possible.
where are you from? at least there are no al waha fakes in europe, and i dont think it would be profitable to make a fake al waha, since it is a quite cheap brand.
but al waha cherry is not really a good flavor. i think the problem with this flavor is, that it is very intensive, and it seems to be harsh easily. try to smoke it with a small amount of tobacco and more layers of tinfoil / less coals. should work better, give it a try!
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Old June 20th, 2009, 11:33 PM
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I actually really like AW Cherry, and the last batch I got was awesome. What kind of heat are you using? Because AW is massively picky sometimes.
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Old June 20th, 2009, 11:56 PM
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Usually, cherry flavor tastes like a medicine and this can be applied to all brands.
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Old June 21st, 2009, 12:09 AM
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MIZO CHERRY OWNS
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Old June 21st, 2009, 12:19 AM
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MIZO CHERRY OWNS
I think I will give it a try.
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Old June 21st, 2009, 02:39 AM
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can't be as bad as Taru cherry..the worst cherry I ever had
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Old June 21st, 2009, 05:03 AM
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the worst cherry flavor i know is nakhla cherry! the best is fantasia mon cheri
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Old June 21st, 2009, 05:21 AM
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I think I will give it a try.
not worth it, believe me !
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Old June 21st, 2009, 05:36 AM
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at least there are no al waha fakes in europe, and i dont think it would be profitable to make a fake al waha, since it is a quite cheap brand.
they fake nakhla!!!!!!!!!!! Ive seen fake layalina as well..
but fake nakhla 50g packages is by far the most ridicolus thing Ive seen.. Its not even tobaco inside.. I have pics of the package
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Old June 21st, 2009, 06:34 AM
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they fake nakhla!!!!!!!!!!! Ive seen fake layalina as well..
but fake nakhla 50g packages is by far the most ridicolus thing Ive seen.. Its not even tobaco inside.. I have pics of the package
i know about the nakhla fakes from turkey. they take sawdust instead of tobacco. but i dont think, that there are AW fakes anyway ...
nakhla fakes are just because its the most popular brand of tobacco and tourists buy it (for example you can get al fakher in egypt, but every tourist buys nakhla, because its so popular and if you dont know much about it, you think it is the best)
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Old June 21st, 2009, 11:51 AM
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Cherry tobacco tends to not be so amazing. But you mention problems that usually come from overheating the tobacco.

I would buy a better quality tobacco, and practice your set-up, so you know what great tobacco is supposed to taste like.

Then you can go back to cheaper brands like AL Fakher and Al Waha that have some Gems in their line up, and try them out.
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Old June 21st, 2009, 05:19 PM
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i know about the nakhla fakes from turkey. they take sawdust instead of tobacco. but i dont think, that there are AW fakes anyway ...
nakhla fakes are just because its the most popular brand of tobacco and tourists buy it (for example you can get al fakher in egypt, but every tourist buys nakhla, because its so popular and if you dont know much about it, you think it is the best)
Well about egypt..
Nakhla is traditional, people there likes it mroe traditional.. al fakher is more juicy and clouds but not much buzz.. and also.. al fakher like 5 times more expensive then nakhla in egypt.. nakhla is produced there while AF is from united arab eremits.. so that is a big reason for why ppl buy more nakhla in egypt I think...

And there are other fakes of nakhla not from turkey.. Ive not seen any contain sawdust.. it was something else the one I saw.. and Im sure I saw one with like a polish warning etiquett on..
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Old June 21st, 2009, 06:14 PM
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Throw it out and buy something else. It doesn't seem like its human error. Dump that crap.
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Old June 21st, 2009, 06:19 PM
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Cherry and Peach both have subtle flavors so you could try mixing it with another brand and flavor.
I just tried Nakhla Peach with JM Tangerine and it tasted like an orange soda with a hint of peach.
I layered it with the tangerine in the bottom and the peach on top of a funnel bowl, left it sit for about 20 minutes while I prepared the coals and hookah. It was good a good session.
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Old June 21st, 2009, 06:50 PM
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Toss it away! cherry anything is never good.
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Old July 6th, 2009, 11:35 AM
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Used some honey on it a week ago. Helped a bit, but it's still not so good. I bought Al-waha 2apple and peach few days ago. I absolutely forgot about this topic tbh
Btw, Al Fakher is like the most expensive tobacco here. But i don't like it. It's more like jam than a tobacco. Like half of the weight is the liquid stuff...
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Old July 6th, 2009, 12:06 PM
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could be a bad batch no? the al washa i tried of cherry was fine, try a 50 gram box to be safe, or complain to the distributer.
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