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Old June 20th, 2009, 10:48 PM
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i just got my first hookah yesterday. i set it up and i cant get any flavor. my friends and i were trying it last night, i tried about 4 different flavors and didnt get much taste out of any of them. if i were to put my tongue right where the tip of the hose is while i inhale i can just get a very lil taste. nothin big to notice a difference. im getting good smoke. not super thick but bigger then cigarette smoke. ive been to hookah bars before and have been able to taste it great, but now here at home
this is what im using, sahara cyclone hookah. hookah hookah apple, and 2 akhla charcoals.
can someone give me some pointers on what i need to do to get some FLAVOR!!!!!!!! lol
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Old June 21st, 2009, 12:25 AM
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Check that all your tobacco is infact in date to smoke, wet and moist. Break it up so it sprinkles into the bowl. Foil shiny side down with the tobacco not touching it. If your using quick lights, break them up into halves... and place 3 around the bowl. The wate line around half an inch to an inch above the stem inside the vase. Double check all your stoppers and grommets are in place, hose, stem, vase and bottom of the bowl.
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Old June 21st, 2009, 12:42 AM
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Check that all your tobacco is infact in date to smoke, wet and moist. Break it up so it sprinkles into the bowl. Foil shiny side down with the tobacco not touching it. If your using quick lights, break them up into halves... and place 3 around the bowl. The wate line around half an inch to an inch above the stem inside the vase. Double check all your stoppers and grommets are in place, hose, stem, vase and bottom of the bowl.
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Old June 21st, 2009, 12:47 AM
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wat??
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Old June 21st, 2009, 01:32 AM
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Old June 21st, 2009, 02:21 AM
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Check that all your tobacco is infact in date to smoke, wet and moist. Break it up so it sprinkles into the bowl. Foil shiny side down with the tobacco not touching it. If your using quick lights, break them up into halves... and place 3 around the bowl. The wate line around half an inch to an inch above the stem inside the vase. Double check all your stoppers and grommets are in place, hose, stem, vase and bottom of the bowl.
ive done all that. but i put 2 coals around the bowl. gets it to smoke good, but still no flavor. theres no leaks anywhere and the water line is perfect. ive counted 5 times ive tried already. any pretty much they all taste the same
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Old June 21st, 2009, 02:25 AM
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Get some Nakhla DA and roomtemp water in Base.
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Old June 21st, 2009, 02:50 AM
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geeze... try a diff namebrand... i wouldnt even know what to say. it doesnt sound like your doing anything wrong..hmmm
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Old June 21st, 2009, 06:23 AM
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I think the tobacco doesnt get enough heat.

how many aluminium foil layers do you use and what bowl?
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Old June 21st, 2009, 01:46 PM
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I think the tobacco doesnt get enough heat.

how many aluminium foil layers do you use and what bowl?
ive tried just one layer and also tried putting 2 layers.
with one layer i get a good amount of smoke.
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Old June 21st, 2009, 02:53 PM
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HH is a complicated brand because you must choose between a lot of smoke, or a good amount of flavor.

akhla coals are kinda bad imo. get some new coals (naturals, like ccn, ch, or sc) and some nakhla, af, starbuzz, etc.

i would reccomend using a vortex bowl with hh because they are both made by the same company and it usually goes better when i use one w/ HH.

and umm...killa_b? did you know that there's someone here already named "killer_b"? hahah
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Old June 21st, 2009, 04:59 PM
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HH is a complicated brand because you must choose between a lot of smoke, or a good amount of flavor.

akhla coals are kinda bad imo. get some new coals (naturals, like ccn, ch, or sc) and some nakhla, af, starbuzz, etc.

i would reccomend using a vortex bowl with hh because they are both made by the same company and it usually goes better when i use one w/ HH.

and umm...killa_b? did you know that there's someone here already named "killer_b"? hahah
damn them!! lol jk


ill try using a different coals. the only reason why im using the ones i have now is cause they came FREE with my order lol. but i wasnt sure if maybe i was packing it wrong or if its the brand or what
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Old June 21st, 2009, 06:46 PM
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yeah any natural coals will be your best bet.

if you want good flavor go with what chad said and switch tobacco.
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Old June 24th, 2009, 03:30 PM
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ok i just got my order in today....vortex bowl, al fakher strawberry, and exotica natural coals.....
i tried those 3 just a bit ago and still couldnt really taste anything. i could smell it a bit, but no flavor when i inhale. then i tried using 15g of hookah hookah and still not much flavor......boooooooooooooooo

your suppose to be able to taste it when you inhale right?
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Old June 24th, 2009, 03:55 PM
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The problem is that you have tried many flavors at the same time. It doesn't work that way. Just stick to one flavor, and try to smoke it for three or four times. I find this necessary expecially whenI get a new hookah or a new hose. Best luck
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Old June 24th, 2009, 04:02 PM
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The problem is that you have tried many flavors at the same time. It doesn't work that way. Just stick to one flavor, and try to smoke it for three or four times. I find this necessary expecially whenI get a new hookah or a new hose. Best luck

i guess ill try sticking to one flavor tonight and see what happens. cause like i said i cant really taste anything when i inhale. and when i exhale all i do is smell it a lil bit.
i was using 2 of the exotica coals
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Old June 24th, 2009, 04:02 PM
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Ya out of all the AF flavours I have tried though strawberry is a bit hit and miss with me sometimes... but smell is a good indicator usually when you open the tub it should be really juicy and the smell should hit you... Sometimes it can be really juicy but the actual tobacco leaves can be a little dry...make sure to give it all a thorough mix before preparing a bowl.
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Old June 24th, 2009, 04:07 PM
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on another note killa b if you really cant taste anything think back to what flavour you had in the hookah lounge...I have 1 friend who says he can only taste mint shisha...no other flavour totally weird I didn't believe him...but then I went round to his place and he just has tonnes of AF Mint no other flavour...and funnily enough I can't actually smoke just a plain bowl of mint on its own...well I can but it is difficult for me to finish it because it really cools my throat.
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Old June 24th, 2009, 04:27 PM
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yeah i opened up that af tobacco and it was really wet and juicy. and it smelled pretty good. i guess ill just try it again tonight. i had 2 coals on, ill try 3 tonight.
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Old June 24th, 2009, 05:21 PM
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when you are starting the hookah ensure the coals are fully lit (glowing red hot) before placing them on the foil and then take really strong pulls to get it going first (It shouldn't take more than say 3-7 strong pulls (I do these in quick succession you'll notice the coal glowing vigorously) to get nice thick smoke and the flavour should then be coming through nicely too and you can pull at a level you are more comfortable with then.
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Old June 24th, 2009, 06:23 PM
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ok right now i just used 3 coals, then i added a ghetto wind cover..(foil wrapped abour the bowl.......it started making some good smoke but then the coals were almost out. added 2 fresh coals and the wind cover. FINALLY started to get that thick heavy smoke, the type that falls instead of floating up.....pretty good but the flavor hasnt came yet. ill continue to try..........
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Old June 24th, 2009, 07:43 PM
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ok right now i just used 3 coals, then i added a ghetto wind cover..(foil wrapped abour the bowl.......it started making some good smoke but then the coals were almost out. added 2 fresh coals and the wind cover. FINALLY started to get that thick heavy smoke, the type that falls instead of floating up.....pretty good but the flavor hasnt came yet. ill continue to try..........
get your self some AF, nakhla or another good type of tobacco HH tobacco suks imo
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Old June 24th, 2009, 07:44 PM
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as a test to see if your batch of shisha is bad i recommend you going to your local hookah bar or get a friend who has used hookahs before and have him try using your goods, see if they can get flavor if not then go back to where you got it and let them know, also most bars ive been to have been real cool about teaching me how to use my hookah when i started them years ago, takes notes if you need but id try to get someone to set up a good hookah useing all of your supplies to check over everything.
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Old June 24th, 2009, 07:57 PM
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i'm willing to bet it's your hose
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Old June 24th, 2009, 07:59 PM
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Default Re: no flavor

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HH is a complicated brand because you must choose between a lot of smoke, or a good amount of flavor.

akhla coals are kinda bad imo. get some new coals (naturals, like ccn, ch, or sc) and some nakhla, af, starbuzz, etc.

i would reccomend using a vortex bowl with hh because they are both made by the same company and it usually goes better when i use one w/ HH.

and umm...killa_b? did you know that there's someone here already named "killer_b"? hahah
Dude... that KillerB dude is a SKUHDOUCHE!

Anyways... HH and HF is a great tobacco, IMO. I never have problems with getting flavor and smoke. But it is a difficult one to get down just right. Try lookign up my vid on how to pack it in a Egyptian bowl... works liek a charm.

also, you should try the different coals and different tobaccos if you just cant get it right.
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