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Old June 22nd, 2009, 06:26 PM
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I've noticed when I put ice in the base the smoke is much thinner...so I was just wondering if it is possible to get big clouds with ice in the base and if so how?
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Old June 22nd, 2009, 06:29 PM
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I put ice in the base and get bigger clouds


one thing u got to watch out for is when the ice melt the water level rises and gives a harder pull... but still better clouds
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Old June 22nd, 2009, 06:29 PM
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Default Re: Ice and Big Clouds... is it possible?

Well, the actual amount of smoke depends on your coals, shisha bowl, ect. But the ice will make it cooler. Cooler smoke doesnt dissiapte as quickly and generally looks larger because of how thick the clouds are. If you were to switch the bases with warm water mid session, the amount of smoke would be the same, the only thng that would change is that the smoke would dissipate faster and appear to be "light".

I would check your shisha and bowl, make sure it is packed right, and that you have a good amount of heat on it.

Also, it wouldnt hurt to check for leaks in your hookah/hose.
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Old June 22nd, 2009, 06:47 PM
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seriously this is weird.... its so much thinner I cant even begin to expain it... you know like when you breath out in cold weather and it looks like thin cigarette smoke...thats kind of what I get...ok not that thin... but without ice I get much thicker fluffy smoke.

my set up is airtight as always ... the variables are all the same only difference is ice or no ice.
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Old June 22nd, 2009, 06:50 PM
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trivial your clouds are ridiculous...way to go dude.
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seriously this is weird.... its so much thinner I cant even begin to expain it... you know like when you breath out in cold weather and it looks like thin cigarette smoke...thats kind of what I get...ok not that thin... but without ice I get much thicker fluffy smoke.

my set up is airtight as always ... the variables are all the same only difference is ice or no ice.
Try adding more heat then usual.. maybe u have a short stem like a QT and the stem is cooing down ure bowl
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trivial your clouds are ridiculous...way to go dude.
thx man
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Old June 22nd, 2009, 07:00 PM
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hmm more heat makes sense because as one of my ice sessions progresses it gets thicker (since the ice melts) so I will try that next time for sure...have to be careful though because I dont wanna burn out the top layer of tobacco with the added weight of more coal... these are very scientific procedures must be treated with respect lol.
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I put ice in the base and get bigger clouds


one thing u got to watch out for is when the ice melt the water level rises and gives a harder pull... but still better clouds

Water expands when it freezes. If you melt one cubic foot of ice you will not have one cubic foot of water. Basically there is no way for the water level to rise from melting ice.

The only things that will greatly affect the volume of smoke is the heat management or the quality of the seals. Personally i have experienced denser clouds with ice in the base.
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Water expands when it freezes. If you melt one cubic foot of ice you will not have one cubic foot of water. Basically there is no way for the water level to rise from melting ice.

The only things that will greatly affect the volume of smoke is the heat management or the quality of the seals. Personally i have experienced denser clouds with ice in the base.
Water level can rise from melting ice if the ice is piled up above the water line. ^_^ But yeah, water expands upon freezing, not vise versa. It is one of the few things that exhibit this feature.

Also, back to the original post, cooler water generally does give the appearance of bigger clouds because the smoke is moving slower (elementary physics here folks).
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Water level can rise from melting ice if the ice is piled up above the water line. ^_^ But yeah, water expands upon freezing, not vise versa. It is one of the few things that exhibit this feature.

Also, back to the original post, cooler water generally does give the appearance of bigger clouds because the smoke is moving slower (elementary physics here folks).
OO ty brad.. i was like wtf how does my water rise then lol

I have a syrian base on a km stem so ice isnt that hard to be staked
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