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Old June 23rd, 2009, 04:55 PM
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Ok so bit of a dilemma people,

I usually smoke with other people and most of them have similar technique to me and what they do does not affect the session.

However, there is one friend of mine who takes very weak tokes and I swear everytime he smokes he messes with the session and I have to purge and mess with the coals to get it right again and he insists on purging it but he doesn't do it right ...I've told him and my friends have told him he should take stronger tokes etc and he does for like 2 puffs but and then he reverts back to the weak tokes... end of the day he is ruining the session for me and my other friends! What to do... a lot of my friends used to ruin sessions like this but they have learnt over time... what to do with this guy?
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Old June 23rd, 2009, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: What would you guys do?

Smaller inhales should not adversely effect the session.
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Old June 23rd, 2009, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: What would you guys do?

umm your hookah, your tobacco, your coals, your money, your time.

Grow a pair and tell this guy how its gonna be if thats what you think


On another note, I have NOT noticed weak pulls ruining a session.

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Old June 23rd, 2009, 05:02 PM
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he barley gets the bubbles going half the time... so its coincidence ... or something else messing it up?
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Old June 23rd, 2009, 05:03 PM
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ya I just dont wanna be rude though cos he says he likes it and stuff so who am I to deny the sharing of the pipe type thing lol
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Default Re: What would you guys do?

I also don't like the word "toke". This may also be the problem, try not taking "tokes" off of your hookah.
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if he likes it then why doesnt he just take normal pulls like everyone else.
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Old June 23rd, 2009, 05:10 PM
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thats the word people use in the UK... what word do you use... I don't take "tokes off my hookah" I take tokes from my hookah...whats wrong with the word toke now?
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Old June 23rd, 2009, 05:16 PM
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I don't know thats what I figured he would do in the long run but its always the same thing when he smokes ... he has asthma (so do some of my other hookah friends) ...so I told him maybe he shouldn't do it and all but he smokes cigarettes so I figured if he smokes hookah just once in a while rather than cigarettes all the time it might be better...
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the words we used most is pulls, drag, or hit as oppsed to toke, which i have heared just not anyone in in any of my sessions

as far as a weak hit (toke) ruining your session, what is it doing that ruining the session exactly?

and if he has a breathing condition he may not be able to hit hard at all, cigs are a diffrent thing, alot less to pull, and alot less to pull though, hookahs have long necks, the bases and then hoses which can be alot harder to hit off of (for instence the few times ive gotten my mom to come over and try it advid smoker for the last 40 years, cant hit the hookah to save her life) so he might just not be able to take that strain. he may not even be able to handle the amount of smoke all at once.
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Old June 23rd, 2009, 05:35 PM
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oh ok people say hit and drag in UK when they are talking about drugs most of the time so thats why I dont use them and pulls well where I'm from we just don't associate that word with smoking but it makes sense in this context I guess... I can roll with that.
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Old June 23rd, 2009, 05:43 PM
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When he pulls smoke from the hookah, we often find that it is too strong to pull from enjoyably ... I think it is because too much smoke has built up inside the hookah whilst it has been with him and sort of not enough come out...if that makes sense... maybe things will change when I switch from quicklights to natural coals...do you guys think that will make a difference?
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oh ok people say hit and drag in UK when they are talking about drugs most of the time so thats why I dont use them and pulls well where I'm from we just don't associate that word with smoking but it makes sense in this context I guess... I can roll with that.
Wow everything is flipped around in the UK the wording is opposite here but back to topic. Exactly how is the session getting ruined?
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Old June 23rd, 2009, 05:45 PM
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Default Re: What would you guys do?

I use tokes as well when im with friends and not drag or pull, using tokes is the british way of saying it

On topic, if he takes small pulls, it should be similar to the coals resting so i dont know how it ruins a session, i got a girl smoking with me regular and she takes a drag like a cigar and fairly small but the session is always fine
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yeah where im at (FL usa) we often use toke for those things :P

the problem sounds liek to me atleast, is his pulls may be enough to hit the coal but not drag though, and hes only smoking the vase smoke, in effect your cooking the shisha but not drawing more down the stem so your just pulling coal into the shisha for the next person, smokeing from the base would also require the next person to pull new smoke down the stem requireing a harder pull(like when you have to start the hookah)

natrual would prob help if your having disflavor, as far as the other thing, try having someone carb his line as he inhales, it helps my weak lunged friend get bigger hits, that or have him take a hose out and hit at the base XP (though it seems to taste so much better when you do)
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Default Re: What would you guys do?

I would try to figure out what the REAL problem is, I dont see how any of what you described could actually ruin the session. Make sure to keep an eye on the heat.
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Default Re: What would you guys do?

Sounds more like a psychological thing. He has asthma, but smokes cigs? I have friends with asthma and most of them will go out side when I light up a cig.

Sorry just give him a warning to use the pipe correctly, otherwise no more for him.
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Old June 23rd, 2009, 05:53 PM
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The underside of the coal glows a little and you can see the foil get sucked down a bit so I don't know if its the same as resting the coals patel mate...

I know what you mean about cigar style... cigar smokers dont usually have a problem smoking shisha from my experiences yes they may take shorter puffs sometimes but they pull strongly for that period...that I find does not affect the session (the duration of the pull)
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yeah where im at (FL usa) we often use toke for those things :P

the problem sounds liek to me atleast, is his pulls may be enough to hit the coal but not drag though, and hes only smoking the vase smoke, in effect your cooking the shisha but not drawing more down the stem so your just pulling coal into the shisha for the next person, smokeing from the base would also require the next person to pull new smoke down the stem requireing a harder pull(like when you have to start the hookah)

natrual would prob help if your having disflavor, as far as the other thing, try having someone carb his line as he inhales, it helps my weak lunged friend get bigger hits, that or have him take a hose out and hit at the base XP (though it seems to taste so much better when you do)
Yes I think this is what is happening only the vase smoke is being smoked with him for sure thanks for articulating that for me.
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Old June 23rd, 2009, 05:59 PM
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can you explain what you mean by 'carb his line as he inhales' I don't know what that is ..
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I don't believe taking weak drags is going to hurt the session, in my experience, it will prolong it, considering your friend is not burning up the tobacco or coals, granted the next guy in line might have to take a larger drag to keep the bowl going.
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I can vouch for what the OP is talking about - I've had a few guests smoke the way he is describing, and it always seems to kill the session. I'd concur that they aren't moving enough heat/air through the shisha, allowing it to burn.

I'd suggest talking to him and explaining what his technique does what it does to the shisha and the session. If you just say "Dude, take bigger pulls or you'll screw up the shisha" that won't work. You've got explain the WHY it does what it does, so that he understands - once he does, I'm sure he'll change his habits
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i dont see how its affectin the session i can leave my hookah for five minutes and come back to smoking and its fine

id recommend getting a two hose or another hookah if its a such a problem for ya
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Old June 23rd, 2009, 06:10 PM
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thats the thing dude if the coals are glowing on the underside a little they are for sure burning not resting so he is using them up and the tobacco is also burning but the smoke is building up inside the shisha at a rate that is so not proportional to what is being pulled out ... so the session is not being prolonged its gettin messed since the next person always finds it too strong...that much I know for sure.
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of course I can leave my hookah alone too for a few minutes with no problems that is not the problem here trivial!
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