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Old June 28th, 2009, 10:55 AM
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Default For those of you in WA I feel for ya...

While I was on a cigar forum, read that the state of Washington just passed a tobacco bill that outlaws the shipping of tobacco, to your house.

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Summary: The cigarette delivery sale statute is repealed.
A person may not ship tobacco products, other than cigars weighing more than three pounds for 1,000 units, purchased by mail or through the internet to anyone in Washington other than a licensed wholesaler or retailer. A person may not, with knowledge, provide substantial assistance to someone violating this tobacco shipping restriction.
Here is the state bill link.

All for the safety of our children...BS
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Old June 28th, 2009, 10:59 AM
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Oh wow.. that's crazy
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Old June 28th, 2009, 03:00 PM
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No... no... when does this go into affect? This cannot be serious...

I can't get Tangiers / Coco Nara's over here... Is this for real?
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Old June 28th, 2009, 03:35 PM
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No... no... when does this go into affect? This cannot be serious...

I can't get Tangiers / Coco Nara's over here... Is this for real?
coconaras arent tobacco lol
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Old June 28th, 2009, 03:38 PM
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July 26th, less than a month away, sorry. I just found out today. I figured it would be all over newspapers across the state.
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Old June 28th, 2009, 04:46 PM
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lol dayum. sorry guys!
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Old June 28th, 2009, 05:00 PM
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Very glad I don't live there. No tobacconists for miles around here.
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Old June 28th, 2009, 11:34 PM
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So I take it this isn't just regulating the post, but UPS/fedex also correct?

Ehh, nvm I think I was reading it incorrectly.
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Old June 29th, 2009, 05:38 AM
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Bleh. So I can still get CCNs... You guys'll have to LEGALLY help me get my tangiers & mizo then
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Default Re: For those of you in WA I feel for ya...

omg ... if you are from seatle you will probably find a store selling some hookah tobacco, but in the smaller towns it will be impossible to find any shisha.
but i think its the same in some countries here in europe (e.g. Austria)
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Wow, this is a really harsh blow to you WA smokers.
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Old June 29th, 2009, 12:34 PM
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Default Re: For those of you in WA I feel for ya...

I can see how this law will help keep tobacco out of the hands on those under age, but I can also see the PITA side of having to find a dealer that will accept it, then dealer fees for receiving. Similar to firearms dealers. How can they enforce this though with personal packages sent with UPS or FedEx though? As far as I can see they couldn't. Having worked for UPS I can tell you UPS does not open every package and inspect it. Also since this is a state law I don't see how they could enforce it on the USPS due to it being a Federal agency.

Another useless feel good law if you ask me.
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Old June 29th, 2009, 12:38 PM
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Ouch, time for ppl in WA to get a buddy near the border.

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Does it say anything about business addresses? Could be a handy loophole.
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Old June 29th, 2009, 12:40 PM
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maybe its like one of those feel good laws, like, every year thousands of people die from being hit by traffic but jaywalking is illegal, just not enforced type of things...
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Old June 29th, 2009, 01:34 PM
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Wait, wtf?!

I've never heard of this before now.

Edit: read the link and looks like it just says we can't be shipped tabacco products from a private party, but an online retailer is fine since they have to legally verify that you are over 18.

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well that wouldnt at all be bad, infact i doubt it will matter
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This is going to end up like a smuggling ring for WA residents. Man, sorry guys.
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Old July 1st, 2009, 12:24 PM
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Aw man... I very seriously hope this won't effect ordering shisha from online businesses. The closest place to where I live that sells shisha is an hour's drive and from what I've heard they don't carry any good brands.... <facepalm>
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MATT641! Yess! Very nice find! Phew
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Default Re: For those of you in WA I feel for ya...

How can an online store tell the difference between a business address and a house address.. I mean what if your business IS in your house?
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i would like to see this enforced lol
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Old July 1st, 2009, 11:42 PM
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i would like to see this enforced lol
Thanks alot photolinger

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dang, but if what matt said is true, then it isnt that big of a deal i guess.
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Well it passed here too, a while back, so I have been fighting the power my own way.
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so it sounds like you may still buy online, but it has to come from an online retailer, and they must somehow verify that you are 18?

and will ups/fedex have to get a signature from an 18+ resident of the house/business?
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