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Old June 29th, 2009, 12:05 AM
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Default "Natural" way to polish copper

For everyone on here that owns a tri-metal or duel tone hookah, if your your looking for a natural and quick way to polish the copper on your hookah just make a paste out of lemon juice and salt and then apply to a towel and proceed to clean your hookah. When your finished wipe it off with a damp cloth and dry. I just did this on mine and it works surprisingly well. It took the copper on my KM from a dingy brown back to a shiny pinkish color.
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Old June 29th, 2009, 12:34 PM
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Default Re: "Natural" way to polish copper

yeah, lemon juice will dissolve the tarnish on the copper. i would recommend using a wax on it after wards just to shield it from tarnishing over for a bit longer.

if you live near the ocean, the tarnish happens a lot faster than not.

i kinda want to turn my copper green on one of my pipes, i think it would look sick
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thx for the advice guys
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Old June 29th, 2009, 02:48 PM
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Thanks for the advice saves me buying some cleaner
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Old June 29th, 2009, 04:37 PM
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yeah, lemon juice will dissolve the tarnish on the copper. i would recommend using a wax on it after wards just to shield it from tarnishing over for a bit longer.
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good old Johnson's floor wax, rub on, let sit 5 mins, buff off and that should keep tarnish away much longer, copper will tarnish in 2-3 days (here in humid VA) and wax will keep it tarnish free for as long as the wax doesnt get rubbed off

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Default Re: "Natural" way to polish copper

I wonder how well a car wax would work instead of a floor wax in slowing the tarnish?
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I wonder how well a car wax would work instead of a floor wax in slowing the tarnish?
i would think you have a large chance for issues not guaranteed but a chance. if you use a traditional wax that just builds up a layer but some of the spiffy new stuff i wouldnt try. car wax is meant to go on top of paint and clear coat which wont react like bare metals will. Johnson's floor wax (in the yellow can with the red stripe) is safe and good (we use it on the jewelry/small scale metal work we do at school to protect and lock in the patina). if you let your copper/brass patina to a level you like and then wax it the ptina will stay at that level too

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i would think you have a large chance for issues not guaranteed but a chance. if you use a traditional wax that just builds up a layer but some of the spiffy new stuff i wouldnt try. car wax is meant to go on top of paint and clear coat which wont react like bare metals will. Johnson's floor wax (in the yellow can with the red stripe) is safe and good (we use it on the jewelry/small scale metal work we do at school to protect and lock in the patina). if you let your copper/brass patina to a level you like and then wax it the ptina will stay at that level too

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Its good to have a metal expert here on the forum, lol!
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Its good to have a metal expert here on the forum, lol!
haha, thanks, i dont claim to be an expert, just one of the 2 fields im studying for now at school (glass being the other so i guess those help a whole lot around here, now i just need to figure out what the 1 class i have to take thats not those 2 will be, its between wood and ceramic now but ceramics is not only wheel throwing so i only get half a class to learn how to make bowls instead of a full class ) just hope my knowledge can helps others be it making things faster/easier or preventing damage

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For everyone on here that owns a tri-metal or duel tone hookah, if your your looking for a natural and quick way to polish the copper on your hookah just make a paste out of lemon juice and salt and then apply to a towel and proceed to clean your hookah. When your finished wipe it off with a damp cloth and dry. I just did this on mine and it works surprisingly well. It took the copper on my KM from a dingy brown back to a shiny pinkish color.

are you sure about the salt? if the lemon juice makes the salt crystals to blend in with the fluid i get your advice, if not then im affraid the salt might scratch the metal/copper..
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I have some brasso in the house, anyone used that?
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I have some brasso in the house, anyone used that?
Yep used it on the Hookah i sold you lol, a while ago tho

It works really well, just clean it with water after your done
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are you sure about the salt? if the lemon juice makes the salt crystals to blend in with the fluid i get your advice, if not then im affraid the salt might scratch the metal/copper..
No they didn't scratch the copper.
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are you sure about the salt? if the lemon juice makes the salt crystals to blend in with the fluid i get your advice, if not then im affraid the salt might scratch the metal/copper..
salt has a mohs hardness of about 2.5 and copper (penny) is 3.5 (granted the fact that the copper is so thin might make it weaker). so there is no way that salt can scratch copper

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I have some brasso in the house, anyone used that?
its good stuff, just like a lot of other polishes, if you need to get into cracks and crevices dont use it though use "Never Dull" comes in a blue can and its like cotton with polish on it, doesnt let the polish build up in the small places you cant get it out... but if your just cleaning a flat piece dont wast your money on it since it is more expensive.

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Default Re: "Natural" way to polish copper

When we used to polish silver plates and other decorative pieces, we used plain ol' Crest toothpaste. Just the normal white basic kind. Works decently on copper as well, although I haven't tried it on brass. Takes a little bit of elbow grease though...
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When we used to polish silver plates and other decorative pieces, we used plain ol' Crest toothpaste. Just the normal white basic kind. Works decently on copper as well, although I haven't tried it on brass. Takes a little bit of elbow grease though...
you need to try the method with AL foil, hot water, and baking soda really easy, cheap as dirt and fast

http://www.ehow.com/how_4760752_clea...er-chains.html for a walk through, theres a few variations of it but all are pretty much the same

i am not sure if this would work on copper but it might, try on scrap first
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Brasso worked a treat and its a natural polish.
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salt has a mohs hardness of about 2.5 and copper (penny) is 3.5 (granted the fact that the copper is so thin might make it weaker). so there is no way that salt can scratch copper

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The thinness of a material doesn't affect its hardness. Hardness is determined by the bond strength of the atoms its composed of.
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The thinness of a material doesn't affect its hardness. Hardness is determined by the bond strength of the atoms its composed of.
yes but you can deform things that are thinner and give the appearance of scratches and such, take a pencil and draw it across a piece of foil and you will have "damage" to the foil even though the pencil led is much softer

also mohs hardness is not a good way to determine metal since the heat treatment and work hardening of it will change the characteristics of it, granted not a huge amount with scratch resistance on some materials but on steel especially it can give some differences

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