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Old July 2nd, 2009, 06:16 PM
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I'm intested in what and how hookah is accepted in the Free Nations. Can you smoke in the local park? On your front lawn, in front of the police department? Even more so, how do passerby's accept it? Dirty looks? Remarks?


In Israel Arab and Jewish citizens can smoke outside anywhere.Hookah, cigarette. In restaurants I know that cigarette smoking is not allowed, but most smokers of the cigarette do so, and the responsibility is on the restaurant owner who doesn't want to lose clientele.

Hookah can be smoked anywhere outside, I have seen only one restaurant in Jerusalem center area which allows hookah smoking there.
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Old July 2nd, 2009, 06:21 PM
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i always get looks from people looking down on me for my hookah cause they think its something else and even after i explain it to them they still give me dirty looks others are really interested and come up to me and ask what its all about so i let them try it out and try to explain as much as i can. now smoking outside is very long discussion that i think will differ from place to place
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Old July 2nd, 2009, 06:29 PM
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I smoke in my own house, never outside.

It's much easier than arguing with people who dont feel the need to have facts or reason to believe what they believe. Gotta love Texas.
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Old July 2nd, 2009, 06:35 PM
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The associations with hookah are really bad in the USA, more so in some areas as compared to others, but I would say it is bad everywhere. It's really a shame.
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Old July 2nd, 2009, 06:39 PM
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I smoke in the house or out side around it in the garage or deck. I used to smoke at the park but i get hassled so much that its not worth the effort. And since i only use nats i usually only smoke at home. And with new smoking bad going up everywhere its really the only place that is now safe, its a shame that the government has to be a jerk sometimes, their killing my freedom.
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Old July 2nd, 2009, 06:55 PM
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I smoke outside both at home and in public. Being that I live in a military town most of the population has been to the middle east at some point so most of the community had exiperienced the hookah or took it home with them. I have been hassled by the cops a few times. Now I keep a tin of Starbuzz around so when the neighbors get nosy and call the cops I show them the tin and it's all good lol. Surprisingly in Tn it's well recieved save for my idiot neighbors and the population of small minded idiots.
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Old July 2nd, 2009, 07:03 PM
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I smoke outside both at home and in public. Being that I live in a military town most of the population has been to the middle east at some point so most of the community had exiperienced the hookah or took it home with them. I have been hassled by the cops a few times. Now I keep a tin of Starbuzz around so when the neighbors get nosy and call the cops I show them the tin and it's all good lol. Surprisingly in Tn it's well recieved save for my idiot neighbors and the population of small minded idiots.

Ah Yes, the small minded idiot, the most common species of nosusintoeverybodies businessus, the king of the cranialinsertedrectal animals. The reason I only smoke at home now.

Although I must say I have a nice community here. I can sit on the front porch and smoke and my landlord says nothing.
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Old July 2nd, 2009, 08:52 PM
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It varies from person to person. Some are very aware and others still think it's for illegal uses.
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And I think technically you can smoke anywhere that is not a "tobacco/drug free zone" such as schools and some parks
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Old July 2nd, 2009, 10:14 PM
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I smoke in the park quite a bit, the hookah usually doesnt raise too many eyebrows, however if the people in this town were to notice the .45 i have concealed on me, theyd wig out. Even after i explained that i was lisenced to carry.
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Old July 2nd, 2009, 10:36 PM
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it depends on where you are a lot, in the city i go to school in around campus the only people that will give you crap are the RAs and security people if you are smoking on the patio of one of the dorms, other than that the campus PD (which is a full blown pd not just renta cops) dont look twice.

back here at home idk how it would go, i smoke on my back patio here and my neighbors dont say much but i also dont think they really see well to my porch between the distance and screen and that i smoke in the evening usually.

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Old July 3rd, 2009, 01:17 AM
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it depends on where you are a lot, in the city i go to school in around campus the only people that will give you crap are the RAs and security people if you are smoking on the patio of one of the dorms, other than that the campus PD (which is a full blown pd not just renta cops) dont look twice.

back here at home idk how it would go, i smoke on my back patio here and my neighbors dont say much but i also dont think they really see well to my porch between the distance and screen and that i smoke in the evening usually.

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Have you thought of starting a Hookah Club at your college? My buddy did that when I was going to a college in Los Angeles and we would smoke in public areas. The college approved it in part because they too recognized the tradition of hookah, even though all water pipes were banned from dorm rooms at that school.
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Old July 3rd, 2009, 01:54 AM
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ive smoked mine in the car during a 4 hour each way journy, cops didnt seem to mind it at all (damn tail light) as far as i know here its legal anywhere cigs are.
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Old July 3rd, 2009, 09:43 AM
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Have you thought of starting a Hookah Club at your college? My buddy did that when I was going to a college in Los Angeles and we would smoke in public areas. The college approved it in part because they too recognized the tradition of hookah, even though all water pipes were banned from dorm rooms at that school.
no because you basically cant get into dorms after freshman year and a hookah club would just end up being too big of a hassle (we dont have a large open area except the sports fields since we are in the middle of a city), i think there would be a large amount of the stupid people that go to the lounge and piss every one off trying to get in. the only reason we got yelled at on the patio (i forgot to mention) is that no smoking is allowed there (kinda the important part, doh). honestly i have enough friends that are into hookah that we just smoke with each other if we smoke together and thats good enough. frankly i dont think a club would really work since hookah is just soo common here, a lot of people have them and there are a bunch of lounges (not many stores but the place that was local to my home is opening up another store in the city i go to school and that will be super shweeeeeet)

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Old July 3rd, 2009, 10:29 AM
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Hookah got a bad deal from the start via the Hollywood movies where it is always shown in places of ill repute. People have stuck with that image of the waterpipe.

Now to get that ingrained sense of correctness out of a nation is more difficult than to stop the 4th of July celebrations. so we have another option and that is to deal with it when it comes.

Here I can smoke in any smoking designated area. so all is fine here.
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Old July 3rd, 2009, 11:16 AM
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Found out its illegal in the Maldives when on holiday earlier this year, had been smoking a Leila travel hookah all week on our deck!
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Old July 3rd, 2009, 11:26 AM
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Once I smoked during the winter , then an old lady came up to me while I was packing the bowl then she said.
"Your not allowed to fire your rockets until New Year's Eve, im calling the cops!!"
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Old July 3rd, 2009, 12:23 PM
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yeah sadly it has the association with some illegal drugs in my area ...

i smoke mine in my house and on rare occasion out on the porch ... but i have had to deal with the local cops a few times just while at a shop that carries some hookah stuff (needed a better pair of tongs and they were the only place to get them that i knew of) ... cop stopped me as i was coming out and was asking a lot of questions .. so i told him i was just buying tongs for my hookah ... well that brought out all the comments about drugs and water pipes (wont put the other name as it would violate the forum rules) ... and i must be a user ... etc etc etc ... i finally just got in my car and drove off ...

but it is legal to smoke them anywhere in the USA as long as it is a place that isn't classified as a 'no smoking' area ... but be prepared to prove that it is tobacco you have in there and not something else ... (in my area that can even be a hassle as some of the people who use em for other stuff buy the 'herbal' blend and mix it with their smoke to give a different smell and flavor) ...
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yeah sadly it has the association with some illegal drugs in my area ...

i smoke mine in my house and on rare occasion out on the porch ... but i have had to deal with the local cops a few times just while at a shop that carries some hookah stuff (needed a better pair of tongs and they were the only place to get them that i knew of) ... cop stopped me as i was coming out and was asking a lot of questions .. so i told him i was just buying tongs for my hookah ... well that brought out all the comments about drugs and water pipes (wont put the other name as it would violate the forum rules) ... and i must be a user ... etc etc etc ... i finally just got in my car and drove off ...

but it is legal to smoke them anywhere in the USA as long as it is a place that isn't classified as a 'no smoking' area ... but be prepared to prove that it is tobacco you have in there and not something else ... (in my area that can even be a hassle as some of the people who use em for other stuff buy the 'herbal' blend and mix it with their smoke to give a different smell and flavor) ...

I have the same issue since my local shop has a few hookah items but mostly other crap. The last time I went in there, there were a bunch of 18ish year old kids being idiots (i don't think I need to go into detail) and I /facepalmed walked out without even buying what I needed to buy, after hearing them order 3grams of shisha.(again I don't think i need to elobrate.) I just ended up ordering it online and I'll continue to make that my main mode of purchasing hookah supplies. Plus the shop staff are tards they didn't even know what natural coals were and were adament about 3 kings trumping any nat coal.
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I have the same issue since my local shop has a few hookah items but mostly other crap. The last time I went in there, there were a bunch of 18ish year old kids being idiots (i don't think I need to go into detail) and I /facepalmed walked out without even buying what I needed to buy, after hearing them order 3grams of shisha.(again I don't think i need to elobrate.) I just ended up ordering it online and I'll continue to make that my main mode of purchasing hookah supplies. Plus the shop staff are tards they didn't even know what natural coals were and were adament about 3 kings trumping any nat coal.
yeah that sounds about like this shop ... i haven't set foot in there since my experience ...

luckally a shop that is near the college in town (owned by a middle eastern man) has started to carry some more stuff .. (mostly HookahHookah and pharoahs tobacco) ... so i will be talking with him from time to time to put in requests for other stuff that he may consider carrying ... but i still prefer to make my purchases online with some of the nice people we have on here.
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Old July 3rd, 2009, 01:16 PM
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teh biggest problem i have with local shops is they dont know anything about hookahs, i guess it became a bigge trend in the US, or atleast where i live as of the last few years so moe places carry things but no one really knows anything about it.
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Since the hookah idea is barely new to my country most people are amazed rather than rejectful to the hole idea of Hookah. In my country, at least in my city, Hookah is known as Narguila, because there have been quite a few lounges opened with that name. My friends who have hookah (and now that I have mine) take it everywhere, smoke it everywhere. Nobody even cares. And the police has no idea what a hookah is so they dont bother. jaja
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It depends where I go here. There are some neighborhood's that you have people sitting outside shops smoking hookah, or ppl just sitting in their stoops smoking. But here, (in The Bronx) I was carrying my 40" KM I let my bf borrow, I walked maybe 10 feet from the car to my front door and I had ppl asking me stupid questions. Imagine if I had been smoking it. I dont think I would smoke outside around here unfortunately. It would be nice to go to the park down the bloxk /

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Old July 4th, 2009, 01:19 AM
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I smoke in parks 50% of the time I smoke... & I am an every day smoker.
Today smoked in a park, same with yesteday & the day before.

All three days I had two-three adults look suspiciously. Had 2+ people try it for the first time & just in the past three days (yesterday) police talked to me. I've had the police talk to me like 6-7 times in the past three months regarding me smoking outdoors. Only once was I asked to leave and they said "Just go to that parking lot across the street..." But all the other times, they check me out & lemme go... I also feel that I possess an adequate skill with debating/arguing to enforcement / people who try to argue.
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