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Does ice and cold water have the same effect?

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Old July 4th, 2009, 08:19 PM
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Default Does ice and cold water have the same effect?

You know how people say that ice give cooler smoke and thicker smoke but takes away from the flavor.. well I was just wondering if cold water has those same effects?
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Old July 4th, 2009, 08:24 PM
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Default Re: Does ice and cold water have the same effect?

Depends on how cold it is; think about it, if the water temperature with ice in the bowl is hanging around 32 - 34 degrees Fahrenheit (which you could really only hold constant with ice in the bowl) it might have the same effect. But cold water, at say, 40 degrees or higher would in theory do the same thing but not at the same intensity.

Bottom line is, FLAVOR IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN SMOKE. Some people may disagree, but I don't understand the whole cloud frenzy. If you enjoy the flavor and the buzz, who cares about the clouds?!
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Old July 4th, 2009, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: Does ice and cold water have the same effect?

I agree with Fervent here. I mean, the clouds are nice, yes, but I would MUCH rather taste an amazing flavor and get some decent smoke. There are some tobaccos that do both, you just have to be lucky (crazy) enough to try them.
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Old July 4th, 2009, 08:58 PM
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Default Re: Does ice and cold water have the same effect?

I don't care about clouds either, thats why I was asking if the cold water is the same as ice because if it is I would just use water from my sink.
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Default Re: Does ice and cold water have the same effect?

Yes, taste is important, but I looove the clouds!
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Default Re: Does ice and cold water have the same effect?

i enjoy the clouds but the ice does more then make clouds, t also makes the smoke smoother and less intense, it makes it more plesent to smoke IMO.
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Old July 4th, 2009, 11:31 PM
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Default Re: Does ice and cold water have the same effect?

the reason that ice gives you less flavor is the same reason why cold water takes flavor away.

I wont use hot water, or warm water, just cool water. But since el paso water in the summer is never cool i use warm water and ice...making it cool...not freezing.
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Default Re: Does ice and cold water have the same effect?

Step 1. Turn on sink.
Step 2. Fill base.
Step 3. Smoke your hookah and dont care about temp.
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Old July 5th, 2009, 01:15 AM
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Default Re: Does ice and cold water have the same effect?

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the reason that ice gives you less flavor is the same reason why cold water takes flavor away.

I wont use hot water, or warm water, just cool water. But since el paso water in the summer is never cool i use warm water and ice...making it cool...not freezing.
I understand that feeling. I'm in Twosuns Arizona. LOL

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Step 1. Turn on sink.
Step 2. Fill base.
Step 3. Smoke your hookah and dont care about temp.
Shien you said it all.

I use straight tap water. I seem to get decent clouds and lots of flavor. Even with Nakhla. Had some earlier tonight and had decent clouds. Wouldn't hide troops movements but they were nice.
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Default Re: Does ice and cold water have the same effect?

Also if I may add, not adding ice makes much less condensation on the outside of the vase and you don't have a puddle to clean up after your done smoking!
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Default Re: Does ice and cold water have the same effect?

i just use the coldest water out of my tap which usually isnt very cold (ground temp is pretty close to 55 ish everywhere so your cold water is around that give or take). i hadnt used ice for a while so i tried it one night, put as much ice as i could and the flavor was rather weak, it kinda sucked. the smoothness is only slightly more compared to much more flavor loss.

so to answer the question yes cold water does the same thing just not in the same extent and it seems like a lot of people here prefer it that way

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