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Old August 8th, 2009, 03:09 AM
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yea cuz they need to add other additives in herbal shisha to make it actually smoke right like its tobacco brother plus to make it not burn as fast like i said in another thread be for man that stuff taste nasty
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Old August 8th, 2009, 04:47 AM
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Its defo getting better though. I started with Soex which was just nasty!! Hydro was nice and then El Rosha is nice. These are the 2 i'm smoking more of now (not much choice with the tobacco stuff being taken away from the good folk of the UK)
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Old August 8th, 2009, 09:04 AM
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The disease
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulmonary_fibrosis

The cause:
Mostly from handling bagasse, and inhaling the sugarcane particles, which is all you will do when you smoke it.

That's a rundown of what you get.

ChestJournal:
http://www.chestjournal.org/content/52/4/505.full.pdf

Not necesarily JUST fibrosis
http://oem.bmj.com/cgi/reprint/3/2/64.pdf

http://annhyg.oxfordjournals.org/cgi...t/26/5/635.pdf

http://content.karger.com/ProdukteDB...ame=229850.pdf

http://books.google.com/books?id=vWV...brosis&f=false

Enjoy.

Edit: Replacing your tobacco will not prevent lung diseases, that is the bottom line.
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Old August 8th, 2009, 10:06 AM
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As true as that may be... Every type of smoking is harmful. The tobacco just happens to be worse than any other (apparently). Personally, I prefer the tobacco stuff, its just hard getting it in the UK.
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Old August 8th, 2009, 11:55 AM
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The way things are going it may come to that in the states real soon unless the population steps up and demands that no more laws be passed and some be repealed. Unfortunately we here in the states have become a society based on each person being the one the universe revolves around, I know harsh but true. Very few people in the US stand together as one anymore. As the old saying goes.. "United we stand, divided we fall" and falling we are.
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The disease
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulmonary_fibrosis

The cause:
Mostly from handling bagasse, and inhaling the sugarcane particles, which is all you will do when you smoke it.

That's a rundown of what you get.

ChestJournal:
http://www.chestjournal.org/content/52/4/505.full.pdf

Not necesarily JUST fibrosis
http://oem.bmj.com/cgi/reprint/3/2/64.pdf

http://annhyg.oxfordjournals.org/cgi...t/26/5/635.pdf

http://content.karger.com/ProdukteDB...ame=229850.pdf

http://books.google.com/books?id=vWV...brosis&f=false

Enjoy.
Yeah, but they're talking about people who handle this stuff in factories. It's a rather big jump to assume that someone who handles a few grams of this stuff a few times a week is going to be subject to the same damages (Maybe after many years.) Even then it's being indirectly heated, and filtered through a significant amount of water. I'm not seeing any information to say this stuff is any more harmful than tobacco.

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Edit: Replacing your tobacco will not prevent lung diseases, that is the bottom line.
Well, duh. I've got some oceanfront property here in the great state of AZ to sell to anyone who believes that.

I think you're making the mistake of thinking that people enjoy this stuff because it's healthier. I sure don't.The reason I enjoy it is because I often like to smoke when I'm doing other things (like writing or drawing) and I don't always want a big heady buzz that tobacco gives me... I think an herbal alternative that tastes great anddoesn't hit me with the same buzz is great for that.
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i guess but either way we are still smoking so it does not even matter if its herbal or just regular shisha its still smoking lol
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Old August 9th, 2009, 02:24 AM
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I have to find these Hydro brand herbal stuff...all I've tried was Soex...it was garbage...as people have been telling me...and I agree!
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Old August 9th, 2009, 07:47 AM
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I'd recommend you give the other brands a shot. The Soex is a really unfair judgment on herbal shisha cos its crap!! lol
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herbal "shisha" sucks anyway, it leaves a pine needle taste in my mouth and it gives me headaches.
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The black label brand is pretty decent. The peach, chocolate, and watermelon flavors are nice and give you decent clouds.

I'm in med school and I will have to say that we have studied pulmonary fibrosis in relation to sugarcane workers and the level and duration of exposure are really the influential factors at play. Also I seriously doubt that smoking herbal shisha filtered through water a few times a week is on par with inhaling sugarcane particles 8-10 hours a day for years and years.

Find me a journal article on the health risks of herbel shisha and we'll see.
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The black label brand is pretty decent. The peach, chocolate, and watermelon flavors are nice and give you decent clouds.

I'm in med school and I will have to say that we have studied pulmonary fibrosis in relation to sugarcane workers and the level and duration of exposure are really the influential factors at play. Also I seriously doubt that smoking herbal shisha filtered through water a few times a week is on par with inhaling sugarcane particles 8-10 hours a day for years and years.

Find me a journal article on the health risks of herbel shisha and we'll see.
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