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Old August 24th, 2009, 09:02 AM
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8214097.stm

what do you guys think?
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Old August 24th, 2009, 09:24 AM
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Once again I'd like to know how they set the hookah up.

Also, lol @ bullshit warnings at the end about TB (WHO GETS TB ANYMORE?!), herpes and effing swine flu.
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Old August 24th, 2009, 09:25 AM
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Default Shisha more harmful than cigarettes according to the BBC

Just found this on the BBC website dont know how accurate it is but it seems more creidible than some of the other reports we've seen because its measured the carbon monoxide a shisha smoker exhales.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8214097.stm
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Old August 24th, 2009, 09:27 AM
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Old August 24th, 2009, 09:29 AM
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Old August 24th, 2009, 09:32 AM
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It sounds to me like the government wants to find things wrong with everything enjoyable so that they can tax the hell out of you for it. Don't let others tell you what to do.
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Old August 24th, 2009, 11:00 AM
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They had this debate in Germany some time ago.. like 5-6 years or something.

Now the tobacco has warnings on it like "Smoking can kill you" and bla bla bla....

Not to mention they imposed the 5% glycerine law... now you gotta buy tobacco AND molasses/glycerine.
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God that is so skewed.

Carbon Monoxide in Hookah > Cigarettes = What do you expect when the hookah bars / users use quicklights for their shisha? I'll agree with those results, sure.

Anyone who is 'pro' enough to realize with the right setup/knowledge shisha has many less health defects than cigarettes... Namely the whole tar vs tar issue. Cigarettes = tar no matter what due to the fact you are BURNING it... Hookah = No tar when the shisha is not burned.

These sources are so innacurate.
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i have a carbon monoxide detector in the house, i below some clouds right into it, nothing happened. nuff said.
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Old August 24th, 2009, 01:55 PM
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lol you totally get swine flu if you use quick lights.
i want to see repeatability in one of these studies
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i want to see repeatability in one of these studies
An addition to this I want to see detailed description of methodologies. Coals, tobacco, foil/not. There are too many factors to simply take a study at a distance. I want to see details that can duplicate the CO levels described.
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An addition to this I want to see detailed description of methodologies. Coals, tobacco, foil/not. There are too many factors to simply take a study at a distance. I want to see details that can duplicate the CO levels described.
Couldn't agree more. I'm tired of countless studies being published where they didn't reveal their methodology. As they say, there's lies, damned lies, and statistics. That doesn't fully apply here but I think you get my gist seeing as how a study comes out and the crowd suddenly thinks it's fact.

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oh no, someone figured out that smoking isnt all that healthy.


great, we all know that. I know hookah isnt helping my lungs, and im okay with that. If i werent, i would stop smoking. That said, carbon monoxide affects you if you oversmoke in one session (we've all had hookah head, and when it gets severe you get sick) but that seems like a far call from blackening your lungs and getting cancer. Personally, I'll keep on avoiding cigs and enjoying shisha.
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Old August 24th, 2009, 02:46 PM
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i wish i could fast forward time and see what my lungs look like 20 years from now and compare.

these studies are ridiculous, they never say what they are using and they just put out a bunch of numbers and everyone believes them because it's coming from a popular news source. just like how swine flu has been hyped up to something that it's not. i've had swine flu, and it's the same damn thing as the regular flu
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I could definitely see how tests they do get bad results. They probably use poor tobacco that is not properly packed with enough quick lights to burn a house down. Then typically use a vacuum to pull smoke through at a constant rate (which is not how you smoke hookah) and don't adjust the coals/purge harsh smoke. This study does test the amount that the smokers exhale though which is a better method then most the studies you read about.
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I am not sure about the methodologies of this study BUT I am 100% sure that shisha is harmful and very risky and I know a friend who got cancer because of shisha. So, you have to admit that smoking is not a good thing to do and it will have negative consequences on your health. Some people like me are willing to take the risk and just don't care. So, if you are really concerned about your health, I suggest that you stop smoking today.
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lifes to short to worry bout things.
If u like doing shisha then fuck warnings and crap, its your choice to do it.
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I am not sure about the methodologies of this study BUT I am 100% sure that shisha is harmful and very risky and I know a friend who got cancer because of shisha. So, you have to admit that smoking is not a good thing to do and it will have negative consequences on your health. Some people like me are willing to take the risk and just don't care. So, if you are really concerned about your health, I suggest that you stop smoking today.
You know, anybody can get cancer. The shisha probably helped, but y'know, just saying.
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You know, anybody can get cancer. The shisha probably helped, but y'know, just saying.
I cant get cancer, as long as I wear my +1 pants of dont get cancer
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Old August 24th, 2009, 07:55 PM
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Yea, its bad for you, mmkayy?

lol, but now that im in college, ive dropped my twice a day, to once a week. But with that, my usage of snus is greater.
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