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Old October 16th, 2009, 06:15 PM
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Thumbs up Huge Zagloul Success!!!

I got some vegetable glycerin in today. I decided to measure the exact amount of zaghloul into the vortex bowl. I packed it loosely then dumped it into a dixie cup. Next I took 1/4 teaspoon of glycerin and 1/4 teaspoon of honey and mixed it in. I mashed the hell out of it and put it into a ziplock bag. I continued to squish it and flatted it out and threw it in the fridge for a good 3-4 hours.

I packed the bowl with the zaghloul loosely and a layer of HD foil. I made a three ring hole pattern and placed 4 coconaras on the bowl. I waited about 3 minutes and my first draw I was getting medium/large clouds. Great success! It isn't harsh at all! But where is the buzz That's what I get for dippin 3 times a day huh LOL.

Now for those of you who think that honey will do the trick you are wrong. I attempted to mix with only honey and it turned out to be a complete failure. Pick up some vegetable glycerin! I'm yet to try this with a flat egyptian, but the vortex really did the trick. It is easier to clean out than the phunnel also for some reason.
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Old October 16th, 2009, 06:17 PM
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Default Re: Huge Zagloul Success!!!

Nice discovery, will have to try sometime.

Just one question.... do you do this with tobaccos that are not very drippy and juicy?
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Old October 16th, 2009, 06:20 PM
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Default Re: Huge Zagloul Success!!!

You can do this only with dry tobacco. I have so Desi Murli around which wouldn't smoke either, but I am sure that this will do the trick. Also, this will work for Nakhla (non mizo) that has been lying around the house for a while. Remember dry tobacco only.


Pretty crazy.
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Old October 16th, 2009, 06:22 PM
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Default Re: Huge Zagloul Success!!!

Cool! I gotta get me some glycerin. I've tried Zag w/molasses...just plain horrible. I've also done the "straight from the pouch, coals directly on the shisha" thing. This "worked" but wasn't a very pleasant smoke. I need to try and find some glycerin local.

What kind of honey did you use?
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Old October 16th, 2009, 06:25 PM
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Default Re: Huge Zagloul Success!!!

Just some random honey lying around the house that was probably from Poland given to us like 5 years ago LOL. I'm pretty sure that any honey will do the trick. To be more specific though, the honey said "Creamy Honey".

I'm still smokin strong. Infact, the clouds are getting bigger. Remember how some people said it can take up to 15 minutes to produce clouds? I was already getting nice clouds and the smoke is becoming thicker. Full flavor too. I'm about to measure up the rest of my zaghloul and prep it the same way then throw it in the fridge.


Now instead of buying Nakhla zag, I'm gonna hit up my local Rutgers sweet shop and pick up some Salloum and see how that smokes.
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Old October 16th, 2009, 06:38 PM
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Default Re: Huge Zagloul Success!!!

I'm doing experiments with nakhla khan el khalili. its a little stronger and moister than zag...I like it with the coals right on top and also mixed with other nakhla flavors..
cool to see sucess with glycerin
I want to try mixing it with AF pipe or AF cigar.
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Where did you purchase this Khan el Khalili?
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Interesting. Thanks so much.
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O wow. They have bata and kass and the one you mentioned. I must try those! Do you know if they are all dry like zagloul? Also what flavor is bata & kass?

Also what is up with this AF Hookah LOL:
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Old October 16th, 2009, 07:07 PM
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last time I ordered they were out of qass and beta...But they got khan and apple askandarany in stock...I posted a pick of my order in my"overpacking nakhla in a large mod bowl" thread

All the unflavoreds are only slightly different...You'll like the khan the best.

they don't have a whats in/out of sock ability on there site yet so be sure to list 3-5 alternate flavors in the order memo...Also be sure to check there Af selection...

I will order from them agin in the future in a second.Great customer service if you call or e-mail them,,there website is just new and needs more work...Nice guys and funny on the phone

there supposed to all be marked "af style" hookahs there just knock offs
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Here's what I do with my Zaghloul and Salloum Plain;

I do NOT add honey or molasses. It's already got molasses in it. That's why it's black.

First, I take the whole 250g package and break it up as much as possible into a ziploc container. Then I start adding glycerine a little at a time and mixing it around until the moassel just starts looking shiny. Then I seal the container and pop it in the microwave on high for about a minute.
I do this on my personal opinion (take it for what it's worth....opinions and assholes and whatnot) that, over time, the sugars in the molasses crystalize and that's what makes the shisha dry and hard. Adding glycerine and heat helps dissolve the sugars and return it to it's original state.

After all that, I I give it another good mix, maybe add another touch of glycerine if I think it needs it and let it sit overnight and settle down; because let's face it. If somebody broke YOU into a bunch of little pieces, covered you with slimy goop and hit you with a big dose of radiation, you'd be ready to take a break, too.
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... over time, the sugars in the molasses crystalize and that's what makes the shisha dry and hard. ...
I can buy that theory, but why is that Zag is (apparently) always dry and hard when purchased new? Do you suppose that because it isn't very popular that it always ends up drying out, or is it purposely sold in this condition?

And if it is purposely sold this way, is there maybe a reason behind it that is somehow lost to the general hookah smoking public?

Interesting no?
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My guess is that since it's not a big seller, it's probably sat on a shelf for a good while before it's sold. Since Nakhla doesn't have production dates on the package you have no way of knowing until you open it (that's because Nakhla doesn't go bad, right?).

I once made an order where I bought both Zaghloul and Salloum Plain. Salloum does put a date on their products and the stuff I got was over two years old. I wouldn't be suprised if the Nakhla wasn't just as old.
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Default Re: Huge Zagloul Success!!!

Thanks Guys i been having some Zag and the first time i smoked it i could'mt get it to hardly smoke at all! but now i will go dig it out the closet blow the dust off of it and do what yall said! and let it set overnight! im glad i have some wilton veg glycerine on hand! to make this possible!

1 question though- should i put it in the icebox or leave it at room temp overnight after i mix it? Thanks again yall!
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Default Re: Huge Zagloul Success!!!

I left mine in the fridge, not freezer on top of mah eggs for 3-4 hours.
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Sounds pretty interesting, I may try this out.
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