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Old December 27th, 2007, 04:21 PM
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hey im new to these parts and i was wondering what the advantages/disadvantages were with a long stem hookah compared to a short stem. For instance, the QT vs the Engineer? i want a hookah for myself but i dont know if i should get a small one or a taller one.
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longer stem means the smoke is cooler. I personally would suggest anything that 26" or above. I am sure others will chime in on the subject.....Welcome aboard!

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Default Re: pros/cons of stem legnth?

well i have read by a few people and personal experience that a shorter stem appears to get harsher easier and the smoke is a bit warmer.
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Default Re: pros/cons of stem legnth?

I agree with Husky and Boom. I would prefer my stem to go as deep into the base as possible ... to allow for more room for smoke, giving it a better chance to cool.
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Default Re: pros/cons of stem legnth?

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hey im new to these parts and i was wondering what the advantages/disadvantages were with a long stem hookah compared to a short stem. For instance, the QT vs the Engineer? i want a hookah for myself but i dont know if i should get a small one or a taller one.
Mutter, may I suggest checking out some Magdy Zidans and Khalil Mamouns ... both Egyptian hookahs that have a stem that reaches deep into the base.

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Old December 27th, 2007, 06:05 PM
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whats the difference between

http://www.hookah-shisha.com/store/p...&idproduct=102

and

http://hookahcompany.com/medium_phar..._2514_prd1.htm

They look exactly the same except the hose (which doesnt matter cause ill be buying a nammor) and the price difference

Hookah shopping is so confusing
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Default Re: pros/cons of stem legnth?

there is a 1 inch difference in the stem length and its a different model stem between each, there will really be no difference between them and the way they smoke.

when your shopping for a hookah there are a few things to concider. how many people are smoking, style (Egyptian, syrian or modern), size constraints, and last but not least price. the way it looks is personal preference also but all hookah's will smoke rather well depending on how they where made.
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Old December 27th, 2007, 06:23 PM
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Default Re: pros/cons of stem legnth?

From about 22" to 30" there's no difference. if the hookah is small, of course the smoke is warmer, as in a Bambino or QT.

SO ptu ice in the base of the QT or Bambino and you're set.
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so out of those 2 that i posted, what would you get? Theres a 20 price difference, but the one from hookah-shisha comes with more goodies..are those goodies worth the price raise?

gah, so many questions, so little time
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Default Re: pros/cons of stem legnth?

get a KM, you wont regret it. Most of the extras are already stuff that comes with a hookah anyhow. My KM is the best of the 4 I own, hands down.
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Default Re: pros/cons of stem legnth?

I would go with the second one
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Old December 28th, 2007, 12:42 AM
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So my order was:

1 of

Red glass base
Free romman cherry
Free romman raspberry

2 of

Orange and White Peach

*1 of

40mm 10 rolls

*1 of

1 kilo

1 of

Red

1 of

Large
Red
I read reviews of the scalli mod and i was torn whether to buy or not, decided not for 2 reasons. 1 i didnt know where to buy it, 2 i read that all it did was save shisha and im not worried about that


*I got quicklites for when im out/at friends house, and got the exoticas for when im home with stove access

Subtotal: $188.65
Less discounts used: ($28.30)
Shipping Charges: $12.45
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Total: $172.80


How good was my shopping?

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Old December 28th, 2007, 12:51 AM
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Default Re: pros/cons of stem legnth?

now, i have no experience in this, but ive heard the large phunnels are...quite large. like, i heard the small was even pretty large. but i assum you know what you want, so....i guess this post is meaningless.

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Old December 28th, 2007, 01:13 AM
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Default Re: pros/cons of stem legnth?

i got the large one cause i heard that the coals will kind of slide down and burn the shisha. i probably wont ever fill it up all the way. just got it incase the coal sliding happens and also to give some space between the coals and shisha so they dont touch. if i end up not liking it, ill use the stock bowl untill i can buy a smaller one
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Old December 28th, 2007, 02:15 AM
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Default Re: pros/cons of stem legnth?

Best bit of advice i can give you - as it is being on this forum; ASK QUESTIONS BEFORE YOU BUY ANYTHING.
I learned that quich, fast and in a hurry lol.

So when it comes to stuff like a phunnel you know the total score.
I have found sometimes the retailer wont exactly explain everything so clearly. Not fault of their own - that's just some "buyers beware" kind of stuff right there.

My friend ended up getting a large phunnel and had no idea what he was getting. He explained he was new to hookah and still whoever he got it from didn't advise him of the size of the thing.

So, even if I have a good idea as to what I want to do - I still ask.
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Old December 28th, 2007, 02:48 AM
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Default Re: pros/cons of stem legnth?

so will i pretty much have a huge useless phunnel bowl? or will i be able to make it work?

if worse comes to worse atleast i still have the stock bowl
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Old December 28th, 2007, 03:11 AM
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Default Re: pros/cons of stem legnth?

I have had some pretty large parties where I could have really used a bowl of that size - so you never know. I wouldn't go ahead and call it worthless really.

Besides, ince you and your friends really get into Hookah, it'll be kinda cool to pull that monster out and say "hey, look at this friggen thing" haha

I plan on getting one eventually.
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Old December 28th, 2007, 04:27 AM
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if you have 30 ppl pulling from the large phunnel you'll be fine.. That thing is a beast, and one bowl will last longer than your lungs by at least 2 days. Now if your packing Tangiers in that thing.... who knows how long.. shiiiit.

Careful with that hookah, they rust pretty easy. Don't let it air-dry.
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Default Re: pros/cons of stem legnth?

good buy overall, the large funnel was a sort of iffy thing because i have the small and thats big enough for a few people to be smoking out of my km and it last a while. H-S has a price match so look around quickly and see what they will refund, for the tobacco if you bought some check my tobacco list for prices and find the lower one so they do a price match so you get some money off. mnh will have a scalli mod but as i say its useless except to save tobacco but others swear by it, only way to know if its worth it is to get one and see if you like it or not. you can check out jimmy at j&r for a small funnel if you have money on a paypal account you want to get rid of.
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Old December 28th, 2007, 04:59 AM
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Mutter!!

viva la nation.

This is what i'm going for:
http://saharasmoke.com/store/product...roductid=16429

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Since you already seem to have purchased before I saw this thread, it's kinda moot, but I personally would have gone with the hookah from HookahCompany.com (http://hookahcompany.com/medium_phar..._2514_prd1.htm) - It's a Madgy Z, a nice brand of Egyptian hookah.

The Hookah-Shisha.com's hookah is a standard machine made Egyptian, not saying it won't be a nice rig, but for the money, I would have gone for the other one. But it seems you had a rather large order already planned as well. Just a tip for the wise - SHOP AROUND before purchasing, as everything you had listed was available (minus the nammor I beleive) at HC. For that would have to go to H-S, but it's all good

Good Luck on the hookah, good choice on the tobacco & coals. BTW - I have the 2 hose Engineer - Lovely rig, but the autoseal system sucks. I ended up removing it and everything works peachy fine.

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Default Re: pros/cons of stem legnth?

Large funnel is useless. You will HAVE to fill it up or else the tobacco wont smoke right. If I were you I would cancel that order and redo it. You could always place orders from 2 places to get the products you want. Its your call though, but I would have went KM.
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Default Re: pros/cons of stem legnth?

To put it into perspective, you could fit a donut in that large phunnel bowl! It is HUGE! (that's what she said)

Everything looks good, let us know how your new hookah smokes

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Default Re: pros/cons of stem legnth?

i have friends that smoke that ill probably sell the bowl to, or ill put it on ebay.

Does anyone know a good place to buy the SMALL phunnel bowl (and scalli mod)?

it seems like a must have item in the hookah collection and ive read great reviews so i still want one
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Default Re: pros/cons of stem legnth?

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i have friends that smoke that ill probably sell the bowl to, or ill put it on ebay.

Does anyone know a good place to buy the SMALL phunnel bowl (and scalli mod)?

it seems like a must have item in the hookah collection and ive read great reviews so i still want one
www.mnhookahs.com sells them and the scalli mod
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