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Old May 25th, 2007, 05:46 PM
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Who cares about all this stuff? I'm sure we would rather just all smoke together rather than be douche bags online and piss each other off

As far as the other forum vs. this one, I go there to read stuff. Like for entertainment. This is the one that I come to to discuss what I want to discuss, because the people here are people that I'm familiar with. The posts here are actually worth reading instead of the same crap over and over.

Plus, isn't that a little 1984-ish to lock posts of things that, in your own opinion, should not be talked about? Rules are rules, but if people want to discuss the virtues of two forums in a free and open place, they should be able to, instead of being censored
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Old May 26th, 2007, 11:20 AM
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it just keeps getting worse tho. theres one guy over there who's only posted like 3 posts who from the sound of what i read is just lookin to start trouble with a very insulting post. it's very childish the way he talks in it.
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Old May 27th, 2007, 07:56 PM
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I just got a little pissed. One of my posts was deleted over there and it shouldn't have been. I hate the way things are looking. Mods should do as little as possible. It's like a judge in the court, who the hell are you to judge my life?? What makes them so great they can decide what I post. I broke no rules. Oh well, I feel better now. Yeah, I finally registered. I am the drunk one over there if you're wondering.
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Old May 28th, 2007, 10:12 AM
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Good to have ya

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Old May 28th, 2007, 01:22 PM
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man i hope things settle down soon. i love both forums
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Old May 28th, 2007, 06:13 PM
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Welcome Wiz. That sucks to hear that they deleted your thread. There is alot of problems going on over there. They all seem to be power hungry.
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Old May 29th, 2007, 10:14 AM
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Gee...sorry Smiley. Hate having to read you are unhappy with me here when we actually talk to each other off forum. Coulda said soemthing there instead of me having to read it here.

As for MY heavy handedness..as long as I'm the target of so many people's ire. I'm not the only mod. There are 4 other's that can actually act. Some of them also delete,move, and lock topics. I'm just the most visible. So everything isn't MY doing.

My comments that this forum may be a flash in the pan is based on the other 5 or 6 that have come and gone. I wished this forum no ill will and certainly didn't discourage people from using it. But the facts are that every other attempt to split off another forum has folded in a matter of months or useage has dwindled into nothingness...Look at the forum on Smiley's site. Its full of advertisements for everythign from viagra to mortgages. Most of the others are simply gone. Chances are this one will do the same. If that upsets you then get over it. was simply stateing facts based on past experiences and if you don't like those facts..well..guess there really isnt anyting you can do about it now is there?

As for WHY things get "heavy handed" over there...This place is new and hasn't been noticed much. When you get bigger, and start having stoners asking questions, fly by night web sites posting huge Advertisements out of the blue, and people going back and forth at each other off topic and getting more and more personal, you'll find yourself doing the same, trust me.

For instance, you have hookahetc as a poster. So far I've read him review something he's selling in the hookah review section. Push something he's selling in a question on the main forum area. Is this the kind of forum you want? Soemthing to be used by vendors to push their own products at every chance?

I'm happy to see this forum up and running, and I'll even stay and contribute cause I'M getting tired of the BS over at the other Forum and trying to ride herd on a Bunch of 3rd graders. And that includes people who write someting inflamitory and then are able to change their posts to make it look like they didn't say anything.

I'll be nice to be able to just post and let someone else worry about running the show.
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Old May 29th, 2007, 10:40 AM
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Hey Mushrat! First off, it would definitely be an honor to have you as a member of this community! You are very well known, and a respected member of the hookah world. Cheers to that!

I agree with your post, I can sympathize with you about being targeted for any "issues" that may arise over there at HF, you are obviously the most well known name on HF. That can be frustrating, I am sure! I've kinda been the target of a community before (a gaming community), where I played a part in building it up, and because I had such a high profile on the site, I was targeted a lot...it is frustrating! So, I totally get where you are coming from!

... as for this community being a "flash in the pan", I totally agree with your statement! I have seen a bunch of hookah forum sites with only a few members, or a few topics/posts, and it is obviously a ghost town! SO I can understand your statement! I would be thinking the same thing, I can honestly say that!
... I know myself though, my drive, and my knowledge of the internet, mix that all together with my passion for hookah ... and I do believe that this new community will be a success, at least I hope so! I really hope to contribute something to the hookah world, through my passion for both the internet and hookah combined. That really is my goal ... just another contributor of the hookah world...

I understand the need for the heavy hand at times! I definitely do not want anything that is not related to traditional hookah talked about here. And also don't want the fly by night vendors popping on to promote, (there are better ways to handle promoting)...or people hijacking threads, getting off topic, or childish arguments ... I said it once, I'll say it again, I know it is frustrating, I know where you are coming from! and agree!

Definitely glad to see ya here, hope ya stick around, you have a lot to contribute, and I look forward to reading your opinions, posts, responses, tips/tricks, and general chit-chat...

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Old May 29th, 2007, 10:58 AM
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Thanks for the greeting. Too bad some of your other member probably don't feel the same way...

This thread in itself is an instigaton that you won't find on the .com because we wouldn't allow it. I find it funny, people trashing HF for saying soemthing negative about this forum. Kinda hyprocritical no? And while we did remove the main thread about it, it's still in someones sig cause that's how i got here.

I recall a thread entitled .net vs .com on the old .net when it tried to go legit. Same kinda comments and complaints even....Just a note...you won't find an entire THREAD devoted to trashing hookahpro.com on HF. Think about it....

I still wish you the best of luck, but when you get big and lots of people are posting and you find yourself having to delete/hide/move post after post because people just don't follow the rules or are trying to stir up trouble, look back at this thread and the complaints people made about HF and then look in the mirror.



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Old May 29th, 2007, 11:00 AM
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Oh and I see the ETC review of his own hookah is gone..he's gonna be PISSED...then watch what happens...
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Old May 29th, 2007, 11:26 AM
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Quote:
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Oh and I see the ETC review of his own hookah is gone..he's gonna be PISSED...then watch what happens...
yeah, I see that too! I am going to bring it back, one of the MODS here deleted it, then deleted their own account ... for what reason? I don't know... I am dumbfounded!

UPDATE!
I figured out what happened, and this is being resolved...a MOD tried to hide the topic, till I could come take a look at it...and it got deleted accidentally...
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Old May 29th, 2007, 11:59 AM
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Mushy I wasn't personally pissed at you. I am pissed at what you guys are doing to people and what Admin is continbuting to do over there. I agree with your staement. But we are all trying to make a place where people can just be.. We regulate al the time. But at the same time we do not treat people with disrespect just because of there staus. I feel alot of people were messed with. Then to read we are a flash in the pan in the tone of condisense. relly dissapointed me. To see that it was you. I expect alot more. I all ways want to help. But if I feel the place I use to love so much. Is acting out beauase of issues going on behind the sences over at the HF site. Sorry but I feel I was mistreated many times.
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Old May 29th, 2007, 12:00 PM
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Very nice. Glad you found it.
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Old May 29th, 2007, 12:10 PM
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Just want to note...

I agree Mushrat, and this thread will be deleted in a few days ... just want to give members of the community here a chance to read your well worded posts, and see that "we are working towards harmony" in the hookah world...

I really do hope that you will be a contributing member to the community here...!

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Old May 29th, 2007, 01:06 PM
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I fully support Sam on this. This kind of thread will help no one.

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Old May 29th, 2007, 04:00 PM
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Sorry smiley....just calling it like i see it. You'll notice I came anyway....
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Old May 29th, 2007, 04:11 PM
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Hey Mush, I was wondering why my posts are getting deleted over there. Are we not allowed to joke anymore? I've always been a joker and I remember when we had a joke section. Now we have the general chit chat and I thought that was similar. I'm not putting anybody down, just trying to bring people up with a good laugh. Not sure what to think...
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Old May 29th, 2007, 05:07 PM
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which posts? remember, im not the only one and I've been pretty inactive with this bar going...? pm me on hf.
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Old May 29th, 2007, 05:38 PM
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mushy.....

I wasnt trying to instigate.Im sorry

I still love going there, you can see that i've been there all day. It's just i also want to feel like i'm apart of something over here. It's smaller, more personal, and yes, it may get big and out of control but i was here from the beginning to help it grow.

I'm sorry you feel like i was attacking you or HF....... but like i've said... i've done nothing but try to help you over there and contribute to the forum.

I am happy you are here, i just wanted to let you know. I'm truely sorry if i have offended you.

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Old May 29th, 2007, 07:51 PM
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... just a note to everyone ...

This thread is being deleted on the 30th of May, in the morning ... I really want HF and HP to be able to co-exist and live in harmony ... and it looks like we may be headed in that direction, and that is a great thing!

After all, the ultimate goal of Hookah Pro, is to create a community of friends, to discuss, share information/tips/tricks and communicate with each other about hookah!

... this site was created outta my passion for hookah ... to share with all of you ... let's enjoy it!

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Old May 29th, 2007, 09:11 PM
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Kill it bro Kill it NOW lol no really go for it. I want Harmony between the two forums.
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Old May 29th, 2007, 09:26 PM
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well...

Im out on that note.

Same prob for me here as is elsewhere.
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Old May 29th, 2007, 09:28 PM
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Lake does that mean your leaveing us? I really hope Not.
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send this back out onto the forums please.
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This thread has been brought back, in response to the request to bring it back, by multiple members of the community!

There is more information here, http://www.hookahpro.com/forums/index.php?topic=222.0 as to why it was brought back. Basically, it has been brought back because one of the members (mushrat) stated that it was deleted by the mods in an attempt to hide it. When if fact, it was deleted per that very same members (mushrat) request. And it was deleted in an attempt to oblige that member (mushrat) and hopefully bury any threat that we may be posing, as another alternative / variety for the hookah world. Because after all HF is run by vendors, and another forum would theoretically be taking away some potential clients!

You can read my posts, they speak for themselves .... I have only wanted to share my passion for hookah with other people, and that is why this community was created! I am NOT a vendor, and I am NOT associated with a vendor, I built this community outta my passion for hookah, and with money outta my own pocket! Because I feel THAT passionate about hookah!

This community will not be bullied into submission to close down like the rest of the forums ...
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