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Old November 9th, 2009, 01:02 PM
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Any type of quick lighting coal needs to be lit outside no questions asked. I will light naturals inside but I am not in the same room when I light them.
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Old November 9th, 2009, 01:29 PM
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i would go as far as to say that lighting natural coals inside is probably a bad idea too.

you cannot see or smell carbon monoxide. get a meter and youll be extremely surprised of the levels emitted.

i have definitely noticed that even outside i get CO headaches from some quick lights that can go away and come back the next day as soon as i start smoking.

ive always said that the charcoal is the worst part of the hookah smoking experience health wise and i believe its worse than what people currently think. the CO poisoning is only 1 aspect; what else youre breathing in is probably another.

for the most part, i stick to golden canaries. very low CO output, no big amount of accelerants, quick light up, dont get headaches or feel ill, etc.
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Old November 9th, 2009, 01:30 PM
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Hey I'm not tryin to dog on you or anything I'm just saying that when you start getting sick (esp. pro-longed sick) you should probably lay off everything that's less-than-healthy for you (smoking, alochol, laps in the frozen lake), since your body needs all the help it can get to recover... but I'm glad ur better now.
Your right although I wasn't drinking, or doing anything bad but smoking and I thought it was was still healthy enough to work then I was still healthy enough to smoke. I worked out whenever my muscels wheren't too tired or achy or in pain (one of the symptoms of CO poisioning) and kept myself in the best shape I could. I thought I need Dr. House to figure out what was wrong with me.
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Old November 9th, 2009, 01:33 PM
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Any type of quick lighting coal needs to be lit outside no questions asked. I will light naturals inside but I am not in the same room when I light them.
Ya I will do that for sure now. I light the natural belgians on the stove in the kitchen and wait for em to get lit in the living room, further away the better.
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Old November 9th, 2009, 01:34 PM
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i would go as far as to say that lighting natural coals inside is probably a bad idea too.

you cannot see or smell carbon monoxide. get a meter and youll be extremely surprised of the levels emitted.

i have definitely noticed that even outside i get CO headaches from some quick lights that can go away and come back the next day as soon as i start smoking.

ive always said that the charcoal is the worst part of the hookah smoking experience health wise and i believe its worse than what people currently think. the CO poisoning is only 1 aspect; what else youre breathing in is probably another.

for the most part, i stick to golden canaries. very low CO output, no big amount of accelerants, quick light up, dont get headaches or feel ill, etc.
Do you got a website for the Golden canaries? I'll try em. I like quicklights better than naturals for sure.
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Old November 9th, 2009, 01:35 PM
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Do you got a website for the Golden canaries? I'll try em. I like quicklights better than naturals for sure.
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Old November 9th, 2009, 01:36 PM
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not gonna lie. they are expensive as hell...they are "quick light". they are natural coal that just happens to light very quick

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Old November 9th, 2009, 01:38 PM
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i like the goldens, they really do perfect for me when I do smoke Tangiers. They dont have as intense of amount of heat as coconut coals do and they are easier to manage Tangiers imo.
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Old November 9th, 2009, 01:40 PM
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Those are golden canaries? Golden Charcoal? Thats what eric uses on his bowls at his lounge. I already got them. They aren't bad but they dont last long. 25-30 min tops. They are very hot too, and I like that, but they are so hot that they burn themselves out really fast. I hate the ash it leaves behind also. I think I'll stick to my belgians, they taste cleaner than anything I've smoked to date.
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Old November 9th, 2009, 01:42 PM
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Those are golden canaries? Golden Charcoal? Thats what eric uses on his bowls at his lounge. I already got them. They aren't bad but they dont last long. 25-30 min tops. They are very hot too, and I like that, but they are so hot that they burn themselves out really fast. I hate the ash it leaves behind also. I think I'll stick to my belgians, they taste cleaner than anything I've smoked to date.
when i use goldens i get 40-45 min easily and they dont burn hot for me as you are saying. strange.
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Old November 9th, 2009, 02:12 PM
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Well they still burn past 30min but they are a small smolder of coal left that you have to dig through soft coarse ash that is a pain n the ass to dig through.
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Old November 9th, 2009, 02:45 PM
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It's just quik lite coals in general. There's no specific brand. They all suck equally. This is why you use natural coals.
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Old November 9th, 2009, 02:49 PM
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I agree. I'll stick with my belgians, they are good coals.
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Old November 9th, 2009, 03:01 PM
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$600 in copayments? Did you even tell your doctors you may have CO poisoning? Carboxyhemoglobin can be tested for by blood or a clip on finger monitor and would confirm whether or not you really are experiencing CO poisoning and to what extent.

Months or years to get the CO out of your blood? Where are you getting this from? Carboxyhemoglobin has a half-life of 4-6 hours in the blood if breathing regular air. The use of a hyperbaric chamber can bring that down to well under an hour.
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Old November 9th, 2009, 03:20 PM
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Now after feeling terrible for the last three months and doing nothing different and not smoking more or less than the last 6 months before that and seeing over $600 dollars worth of co payments for doctors to rule out ever thing from RA to Lyme disease I have FOUND my own cure, and that cure is to stay away from ******* hookah coals, it was the only thing that I had changed 3 months ago. I used to smoke 3 Kings 5 hours a day with no problem. Now after switching to ******* hookah and smoking the same amount of time with the same tobacco I have been poisoned severely. No one is to blame but myself although it is terrible to have CO Poisoning and dont wish it upon anyone. It makes you feel lethargic, tired, pain, headache, dizziness, lightheadedness, fuzzy/double vision, and sometimes even vomiting. I switched to my Belgian 40mm naturals and I am already starting to feel better. Still have a little doublevision and still feel a little tired although my hammering headache is gone which is a good sign, we'll see how the next weeks treat me.

PS. Thanks Lonelyboy, if it wasn't for your preaching about the touchy subject I would have never been able to put the pieces of the puzzle together. Thanks again.
I had a couple of posts in your other thread and I suggest you take a look at them.
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Old November 9th, 2009, 03:39 PM
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i don't mean to be a stick in the mud here, but can you email me so i know who you are? i just want to know that you are a customer and that you have been purchasing 6 months worth of CH Coals. I have a couple of competitors who are taking some cheap shots at me and would just like to confirm that you are a customer, no offense, thanks
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Old November 9th, 2009, 04:57 PM
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Remember anything over 2/3 hookah sessions a week/2 weeks is considered to much. I sometimes smoke more than that but I try to keep it to a minimum...

Also when I say a hookah session (I mean literally 1 hour and a half not 5 hours straight smoking).

If its more than 1 session a day then its pretty much extreme!

Also remember a hookah was meant for SOCIAL use (yes not hours smoking alone) and for use on weekly bases... As I know and myself admit and many other forum members abuse a hookah pipe by using it a lot.

Its the reason why in the middle east they have little to/no health problems and the members of this forum (probably others) experience new health problems.

Try and keep your hookah smoking to a minimum (reduce the sessions and the puff durations/ give your body time to inhale oxygen).

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Old November 9th, 2009, 05:13 PM
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i don't mean to be a stick in the mud here, but can you email me so i know who you are? i just want to know that you are a customer and that you have been purchasing 6 months worth of CH Coals. I have a couple of competitors who are taking some cheap shots at me and would just like to confirm that you are a customer, no offense, thanks
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The premise of you blaming the coals causing your ailment and not the fact that you smoke like a fiend is not logical at all in this case, being John's coals, which are very good coals, some of the best on the market, not some cheap ql.

It's like saying "I'll never buy a Ford again, it caused me to get in a wreck, not the fact that I was going 30 over, drunk, and swerving in traffic."
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Old November 9th, 2009, 05:34 PM
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Good point^, Like I said it can't be the coals. Your smoking for 5 hours straight, and lighting the coals in the same room you are smoking in. All that right there is just asking for CO poisoning.
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Old November 9th, 2009, 05:54 PM
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The amount he smokes would not lead to any significant CO poisoning. If it were, Eric would have died a long time ago and I would have also or at least be in and out of hospitals on a regular basis. You guys speak as if he smokes an unusually tremendous amount of moassel.

If his case is truly CO poisoning, then it is best attributed to his habitual lighting of the CH quick lights in doors with poor ventilation.

For those that haven't closely read this thread, please be dubious about how his experience directly correlates to the quality and performance of CH quick light coals. John and pretty much any other member who has ever commented about it have repeatedly said to light quick lights outdoors.
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Old November 9th, 2009, 06:07 PM
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If his case is truly CO poisoning, then it is best attributed to his habitual lighting of the CH quick lights in doors with poor ventilation.
John and pretty much any other member who has ever commented about it have repeatedly said to light quick lights outdoors.
Yes I forgot to mention this as well, sorry.
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Old November 9th, 2009, 09:34 PM
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I just ordered some CH quicklights, all reviews pointed me towards these as the best QL coals on the market
I dont think it was the coals that caused the CO poisoning, as other have mentioned, it must be something else, probably from lighting the coal indoors
I'm not afraid to give CH coals a try although this thread scared me a bit but I don't think ill run into this sort of problem
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Old November 9th, 2009, 09:40 PM
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I dont think it was the coals that caused the CO poisoning, as other have mentioned, it must be something else, probably from lighting the coal indoors
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Old November 9th, 2009, 09:42 PM
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I think he means he wouldn't blame the quality of the coals themselves as much as it's the OP's fault for lighting QLs inside.
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