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Old November 17th, 2009, 12:26 PM
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Default Ghosting... What actually causes it?

I was wondering what actually causes your hookah to ghost smells?...


My QT has some horrid smells inside the base, stem, and hose... I trying the baking soda, scrubbing, lemon juice, etc etc... still ghosted...

It wasn't cleaned regularly because me being ignorant on the subject.

Is it the 3 kings coals i am using? Shisha? What is causing this?...

I change the water each bowl i run thru it.
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Old November 17th, 2009, 12:33 PM
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Default Re: Ghosting... What actually causes it?

Bear in mind that ghosting is not always a terrible smell. Ghosting is the essence of flavors that you smoke sticking to the materials of the hookah (often the hose) and remaining noticeable for a long time.

What kind of flavor and smell are you talking about? Is it a flavor from a tobacco or is it a musty and stagnant smell?
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Old November 17th, 2009, 12:39 PM
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Default Re: Ghosting... What actually causes it?

in either case a good washing should take care of things, if the hookah ever molded or something like that then clean it through with bleach and rinse the hell out of it. Also if you're still using the hose the QT came with, the ghosting is probably in the hose (mya hoses rot after a while)
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Bear in mind that ghosting is not always a terrible smell. Ghosting is the essence of flavors that you smoke sticking to the materials of the hookah (often the hose) and remaining noticeable for a long time.

What kind of flavor and smell are you talking about? Is it a flavor from a tobacco or is it a musty and stagnant smell?
--- in the entire system was eeewww def. not a good smell... like its beginning to get me sick when i smoke... just the smell alone makes me not want to hit it.

I do think the house is majority of the problem, but the fact that the stem and base are still bad after cleaning... smells like an ashtry. wet ashtray that you just spilled on yourself or in your car... if that makes any sense.

EDIT: When i get home, i will be arriving to a brand new KM and i didnt wnat to use 3 kinds coals on it if that was adding to this problem of mine...

I don't really know what hoses to get for the mya and the KM... i would like them to be affordable so i can buy maybe 3-4 of them for different flavors... basically keep a hose for a flavor i smoke almost daily...

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Default Re: Ghosting... What actually causes it?

rather than buying a whole bunch of cheap hoses i would go with one good washable. This would solve the hose issue in the future. as for the mya give it one more cleaning and then a new hose, it should be save-able unless it rusted somewhere
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Default Re: Ghosting... What actually causes it?

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rather than buying a whole bunch of cheap hoses i would go with one good washable. This would solve the hose issue in the future. as for the mya give it one more cleaning and then a new hose, it should be save-able unless it rusted somewhere
--- defnot rusted inside or anything... only a 3 months old... but about 40-50 bowls thru it without any cleaning...

could you source eme some good hoses? (not from SS)
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Default Re: Ghosting... What actually causes it?

http://www.nazarhookah.com/index.php...hsld6tmtnj2fd3

That one above ^ is probably what i would get. It has a put output (hose to base) connection. Doesn't seem like it would make the hookah heavy on one side...

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This is the hookah i bought, and the hose it came with... is this washable? any good even?

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no but its new so it will take care of your current hose issue
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Default Re: Ghosting... What actually causes it?

I had a MYA QT .. and the stem is porous and really hangs onto flavors! One of the main reasons I don't like those cast stems that a lot of MYAs have!
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--- defnot rusted inside or anything... only a 3 months old... but about 40-50 bowls thru it without any cleaning...

could you source eme some good hoses? (not from SS)
Did you say... without cleaning?

You let your hookah get nasty and the rankness stuck. It's entirely understandable that it has a nasty flavor in it. Wash your hookahs fairly regularly or this is going to happen again. Take the rig apart and soak the entire thing minus the hose. Water and a bit of dish soap should treat you well.

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Default Re: Ghosting... What actually causes it?

yea definitely gotta keep the hook fresh.
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Old November 17th, 2009, 02:30 PM
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I noticed that when smoking Starbuzz and the likes (as in not Tangiers or Nakhla) the ghosting was really bad, and even worse with a Mya hookah. Myas have the rough brass on the inside, unless it's a bambino or one of the more expensive models.

Tangiers leaves minimal ghosting, and I even once read a post from Eric saying it cleaned the ghost flavors out of your hookah. It does a pretty good job of that in my opinion.

Nakhla also leaves very little ghosting, and that's one of the reasons I like smoking it so much.
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Old November 17th, 2009, 02:37 PM
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use boiled water and bakin soda that would do the trick man
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Default Re: Ghosting... What actually causes it?

Personally, I wouldnt keep using a hookah that sounds as nasty as this one is. I would trash it.
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Default Re: Ghosting... What actually causes it?

It's not as bad as i make it sound lol.

I cleaned it and all the worse part was the base... It had like calcium build up for where i put the water at. I just rubbed it away with my finger. The hose all in all is what i dislike as of now.

When we first got it, we weren't rotating the coals, we were packing it wrong, just doing everything wrong all together. Every single bowl was burnt without recognition and was only good for the first 10 min.

I now did my research and did my wrench time. Much better now with heat management and packing the bowl properly to get a good smoke. Just think the lack of cleaning and lots of bad smoke going thru it, it just ghosted it pretty badly.

It has been getting better, very slightly very slowly... Maybe ill soak this thing in bleach and put it thru the dishwasher with some AJAX and all that other good stuff.

I was thinking about replacing the hose with a DIY and reuse the tips for the project...

As for the new hose... a washable one. What do the majority of people use? I don't think this would be a bad thing to jump onto the bandwagon with.
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just make sure you clean it very well, i wash my hookah before every smoke
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If you soak it in bleach, don't put AJAX on it - there's no need to chemical yourself out. Just rinse it super-thoroughly and maybe throw it in the dishwasher with no soap. Make sure you give your hookah a good going over no less than once every two weeks if you smoke regularly. Some people recommend washing every time you smoke, but I find that to be an unnecessary hassle. I try to wash mine at least once a week, but I smoke every day.
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just make sure you clean it very well, i wash my hookah before every smoke
--- yeah. def keeping up on the cleaning regiment now... that was purely ignorance.

^^ read last post and help me out on what everyone else uses... I had a fellow give me a few options earlier, but i want to know...

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Personally I use my Razans more than my other hoses. I like my Nammors too but have had more problems with them. Once in a while I pull out either the KM hose I have or the nour hose depending on the flavor. The nour hose is used almost exclusively for the more classic styles of moassel.
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Personally I use my Razans more than my other hoses. I like my Nammors too but have had more problems with them. Once in a while I pull out either the KM hose I have or the nour hose depending on the flavor. The nour hose is used almost exclusively for the more classic styles of moassel.
--- what was your problem that you experienced?
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--- what was your problem that you experienced?
I had the acrylic hose end snap on me because it was carve too deeply. First day and first use. H-S replaced it happily. I repaired the hose and used it for a while. I got the replacement and both have had issues with the grommets coming out one and the handle wrapping coming off the other after it fell apart at the point where the hose and handle meet.
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I have a Rainbow KM. It's got a much better pull then the normal mya-type hoses, but I'm not sure it's washable. There are some sites that sell it that say it is, and I've rinsed it a couple times with no rust issues, but I'm afraid to do it again now that people on here have told me it's not washable
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--- defnot rusted inside or anything... only a 3 months old... but about 40-50 bowls thru it without any cleaning...
Not to be rude, but thats kind of nasty man. You got to realize that everytime you don't clean it, you are putting your hookah at risk to rust and to have that skunk smell.

That is why you need to scrub the hell out of that for a long long long long time, seriously, you could have some nasty things groiwng on it right now
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Not to be rude, but thats kind of nasty man. You got to realize that everytime you don't clean it, you are putting your hookah at risk to rust and to have that skunk smell.

That is why you need to scrub the hell out of that for a long long long long time, seriously, you could have some nasty things groiwng on it right now
--- lol. its all cleaned now, just working on the ghosting to get out of it. its def. weakened over time.
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