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Old November 21st, 2009, 04:03 AM
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Default KM vs AF

hey guys, i'm having a big problem with these two hookahs. I dont know which one to buy! They are both sexy bitches, but i need them to be reliable and durable.

Al Fakher Large Light 40"
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Khalil Mamoon 38 inch Exotica Green and Gold Stripes
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FYI, I dont care if there hella big, they just have to look gooood.




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Old November 21st, 2009, 04:47 AM
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Don't get the AF Light. Get the KM.
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Old November 21st, 2009, 08:24 AM
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Don't get the AF Light. Get the KM.
Neither. Get the AF solid, it's the shiznit
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Old November 21st, 2009, 08:31 AM
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Neither get a Tamseh
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Old November 21st, 2009, 10:20 AM
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lol yeah I wouldn't get neither of those pipes. I vote for an AF solid 36" if you want a big one
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Old November 21st, 2009, 10:30 AM
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Here's what you do. I see you already have a KM Pear,so take a step outside of KM and try AF. They are both nice rigs.
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Old November 21st, 2009, 11:20 AM
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Neither get a Tamseh
I agree if the AF solid is too expensive get a tamseh.
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Old November 21st, 2009, 11:48 AM
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The AF is a lot flashier. But if you already have a KM, why not go with the AF?
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Old November 21st, 2009, 11:49 AM
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I realise everyone is entitled to there own opinion, but when someone asks for an opinion on two hookahs THEY like, why step outside of their question and make things more difficult for them by throwing in another brand. Just help him choose between the KM and the AF. I'm not saying this to be a dick. It's just somehting to think about.
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Old November 21st, 2009, 12:54 PM
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I realise everyone is entitled to there own opinion, but when someone asks for an opinion on two hookahs THEY like, why step outside of their question and make things more difficult for them by throwing in another brand. Just help him choose between the KM and the AF. I'm not saying this to be a dick. It's just somehting to think about.
Totally agreed. Now i think the AF is the better looking and if you already have a KM why not go for something new?
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Old November 21st, 2009, 12:56 PM
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Totally agreed. Now i think the AF is the better looking and if you already have a KM why not go for something new?
Because the AF is a very light an thin stem that feels like paper. the stem pieces are all hollow sheet metal.
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Old November 21st, 2009, 01:16 PM
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Between those two hookahs i will say you get the KM
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Old November 21st, 2009, 01:21 PM
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Because the AF is a very light an thin stem that feels like paper. the stem pieces are all hollow sheet metal.
Same with the KM. They are both turned sheet metal around a center pipe.

Do you have experience with the AF light?
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Old November 21st, 2009, 01:23 PM
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If you own a KM,you will notice that they are not solid also. I haven't touched or seen a review on the AF light, but I have a small solid,and if they are good,the AF light can't be all that bad.
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Old November 21st, 2009, 01:25 PM
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Same with the KM. They are both turned sheet metal around a center pipe.

Do you have experience with the AF light?
Yes i do, but the KM uses thicker sheets. I'm trying to think of something to compare it too...

Ohh ok, here's something. the AF light is like aluminum foil compared to the KM which is a soup can. Does that make sense? It's thin to the point where it doesn't even feel like brass.

The downstem on the light stem I have was extremely short, and the solders were the worst I've seen, right below a H-S egyptian.


Jeeze, I know exactly what i mean it's just hard to say. I hated the Light stem in comparison to even the KM Pear I have.
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Old November 21st, 2009, 01:31 PM
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I'd say go with a KM. I love my double pear, but not over my solid though. good luck on your decision!
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Yes i do, but the KM uses thicker sheets. I'm trying to think of something to compare it too...

Ohh ok, here's something. the AF light is like aluminum foil compared to the KM which is a soup can. Does that make sense? It's thin to the point where it doesn't even feel like brass.

The downstem on the light stem I have was extremely short, and the solders were the worst I've seen, right below a H-S egyptian.


Jeeze, I know exactly what i mean it's just hard to say. I hated the Light stem in comparison to even the KM Pear I have.
I understood what you meant by thinner. I was just wondering if this was based on personal experience and commenting on the fact that they are both hollow stems.
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Old November 21st, 2009, 01:34 PM
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Oh no sir, I would not tell anyone not to buy something if I havn't had experience with it.

The stem looked pretty cool to me, thought it would accompany my solid pretty well. It was a very major letdown.
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Default Re: KM vs AF

I'd stay away from both, too tall man!

You want something a little shorter man those will be annoying to clean, then theres the tippage issues etc etc etc.

get a shorter km or an af heavy or possibly a temsah wheat!
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Old November 22nd, 2009, 06:07 PM
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+1 KM
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Old November 22nd, 2009, 09:30 PM
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i like the look of the af a bit more
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I realise everyone is entitled to there own opinion, but when someone asks for an opinion on two hookahs THEY like, why step outside of their question and make things more difficult for them by throwing in another brand. Just help him choose between the KM and the AF. I'm not saying this to be a dick. It's just somehting to think about.
Maybe they didn't know that a certain brand existed you never know you could always open options for people.
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Old November 23rd, 2009, 06:17 AM
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Maybe they didn't know that a certain brand existed you never know you could always open options for people.
True enough,but if he was at Hookah John's, He more than likely did see the other options. The question is KM vs AF, not KM vs AF vs Temsah.
It's obvious these two caught his eye and likes them,but right know only wants one and can't decide.
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Old November 23rd, 2009, 06:45 AM
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True enough,but if he was at Hookah John's, He more than likely did see the other options. The question is KM vs AF, not KM vs AF vs Temsah.
It's obvious these two caught his eye and likes them,but right know only wants one and can't decide.
The AF light and solid look the same but are different in terms of weight/quality/material so I don't think it's irrelevant. In fact I think people are doing him a service for telling him that if you like the light go for the solid.

My honest opinion is that the light is a false economy compared to the solid just like eu de toilette is compared to eu de perfam when buying perfume.
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Old November 23rd, 2009, 05:23 PM
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The 40" is a bit tall. Go with the AF 36" solid, I bought the 30" AF and i love it. It smokes great!
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