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Old January 5th, 2008, 11:33 AM
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OK, seems like HookahMaster provided you with good advice. Leave out the ball bearing in the hose port (it is for an autoseal, but you are only using one hose so it doesn't matter). Put the other ball bearing on the other side along with the purge valve. You will be good to go!

OK, now about your ball bearings. When you wash your hookah, you need to separate the metal ball bearings from the stem and dry them. Or they will rust easily!
Personally I use a plastic BB for my ball bearing. They are cheap, they are light and work really well!

On the bright side, in the future you could always get another hose port and convert your hookah into a two hoser! But you wouldn't have a purge valve. If you get really good with managing the coals, you will have less harsh smoke and probably won't need the purge valve as much though. For now though, just stick to the one hose.

Hope that helps ... Cheers!
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Old January 5th, 2008, 01:25 PM
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Ooohhh, ok, I see now. Yeah, yours are completely different to mine and the picture at hookah-shisha...weird. But anyway, put it back together the way you had it in the first pic. Just make sure to only put one ballbearing in the "purge port" side. Do not put one in the hose port side. And like Sambooka said, it seems that your purge port is the type that will require you to unscrew it a little each time you go to clear the chamber. Also, it seems that the ballbearings are rusted, if I were you, I'd get new ones from hookah-shisha (I believe they're plastic, so they won't rust). Before you put it back together, I HIGHLY recommend you oil the ballbearing up. Trust me, it'll allow it to work for some time, but like I said earlier, you should problaby buy a new ballbearing. Ballbearings are supposed to be clean and shiny, yours look pretty bad, so that's what's causing the problem...
Ok, thanks for the help everyone!

Also, i did notice that the ball bearings are rusted, i thought i was buying the hookah brand new (bought it from hookah-shisha, and ive never used it once) so shouldnt everything have been brand new? The hose tastes like its been smoked out of, the stem smells like its been smoked out of, and the bowl smells sorta smokey, though it looks brand new. Hmm, i didnt know if this was a normal thing so i didnt complain about it, but now that you mention the ball bearings, im just wondering if i was sold a used stem
Tyhat smokey smell.... i have noticed that with H-S hookahs.. but never took it to heart.
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Old January 5th, 2008, 01:27 PM
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OK, seems like HookahMaster provided you with good advice. Leave out the ball bearing in the hose port (it is for an autoseal, but you are only using one hose so it doesn't matter). Put the other ball bearing on the other side along with the purge valve. You will be good to go!

OK, now about your ball bearings. When you wash your hookah, you need to separate the metal ball bearings from the stem and dry them. Or they will rust easily!
Personally I use a plastic BB for my ball bearing. They are cheap, they are light and work really well!

On the bright side, in the future you could always get another hose port and convert your hookah into a two hoser! But you wouldn't have a purge valve. If you get really good with managing the coals, you will have less harsh smoke and probably won't need the purge valve as much though. For now though, just stick to the one hose.

Hope that helps ... Cheers!
But he could put the ball bearing in the purge valve-turned-hose port like he did and have auto-seal, which is basically a purge valve.
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Old January 5th, 2008, 10:32 PM
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Thanks to everyone for the help. i smoked some starbuzz white peach out of it today. the smoke was good and it was hitting fine, but for some reason none of us (a group of around 5) could taste the white peach very much, it just tasted like flavored smoke, but not a defined peach flavor. anyone have any tips on how to pull that sweet flavor out into your smoke?

Used a large funnel (doesnt really seem very big) and 2 30mm golden QL's on opposite sides of eachother
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Old January 6th, 2008, 12:32 AM
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for some reason none of us (a group of around 5) could taste the white peach very much, it just tasted like flavored smoke, but not a defined peach flavor. anyone have any tips on how to pull that sweet flavor out into your smoke?
me too, with most flavors i have that happen.
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Thanks to everyone for the help. i smoked some starbuzz white peach out of it today. the smoke was good and it was hitting fine, but for some reason none of us (a group of around 5) could taste the white peach very much, it just tasted like flavored smoke, but not a defined peach flavor. anyone have any tips on how to pull that sweet flavor out into your smoke?

Used a large funnel (doesnt really seem very big) and 2 30mm golden QL's on opposite sides of eachother
That brand/flavor always offered me the most wild peach taste in my mouth! Like I could literally chew the smoke it tasted so good! You may be giving it to much heat? Try breaking the two coals into halves and putting 4 halves to heat up the bowl, then take off one after it is warmed up. See how that goes!?

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Old January 6th, 2008, 02:52 PM
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Thanks to everyone for the help. i smoked some starbuzz white peach out of it today. the smoke was good and it was hitting fine, but for some reason none of us (a group of around 5) could taste the white peach very much, it just tasted like flavored smoke, but not a defined peach flavor. anyone have any tips on how to pull that sweet flavor out into your smoke?

Used a large funnel (doesnt really seem very big) and 2 30mm golden QL's on opposite sides of eachother
This is strange. Starbuzz provides TONS of flavor. It' should be very pronounced. Specially with that white peach, that's one of their best flavors IMO. Question, do you or any of the other 4 friends smoke (cigarettes)? There might be a chance that all of your taste buds are "burned out". It happens to some people that smoke a lot. Other than that, the only other thing I'd check, is how you're packing the bowl. Make sure you stir up the shisha before packing the bowl. You want to get all of the juices from the bottom to mix with all the shisha. A lot of times people don't do this and end up smoking from the dried out shisha that's on top, and therefore not getting much flavor.
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Old January 6th, 2008, 04:54 PM
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And if you want a GREAT SB flavor, go with Lemon Tea. It's truly spectacular in all aspects.

It's has light, very light, earthy black tea undertones, and very light but sweet lemon flavor. I would reccomend this to anyone right off the bat.
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Old January 7th, 2008, 07:32 PM
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Thanks to everyone for the help. i smoked some starbuzz white peach out of it today. the smoke was good and it was hitting fine, but for some reason none of us (a group of around 5) could taste the white peach very much, it just tasted like flavored smoke, but not a defined peach flavor. anyone have any tips on how to pull that sweet flavor out into your smoke?

Used a large funnel (doesnt really seem very big) and 2 30mm golden QL's on opposite sides of eachother
This is strange. Starbuzz provides TONS of flavor. It' should be very pronounced. Specially with that white peach, that's one of their best flavors IMO. Question, do you or any of the other 4 friends smoke (cigarettes)? There might be a chance that all of your taste buds are "burned out". It happens to some people that smoke a lot. Other than that, the only other thing I'd check, is how you're packing the bowl. Make sure you stir up the shisha before packing the bowl. You want to get all of the juices from the bottom to mix with all the shisha. A lot of times people don't do this and end up smoking from the dried out shisha that's on top, and therefore not getting much flavor.
i dont know if they smoke cigs, i never have. we did stir it before packing the bowl. ill try splitting the coals in half like sambooka said and see if that helps
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Old January 7th, 2008, 11:45 PM
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Thanks to everyone for the help. i smoked some starbuzz white peach out of it today. the smoke was good and it was hitting fine, but for some reason none of us (a group of around 5) could taste the white peach very much, it just tasted like flavored smoke, but not a defined peach flavor. anyone have any tips on how to pull that sweet flavor out into your smoke?

Used a large funnel (doesnt really seem very big) and 2 30mm golden QL's on opposite sides of eachother
This is strange. Starbuzz provides TONS of flavor. It' should be very pronounced. Specially with that white peach, that's one of their best flavors IMO. Question, do you or any of the other 4 friends smoke (cigarettes)? There might be a chance that all of your taste buds are "burned out". It happens to some people that smoke a lot. Other than that, the only other thing I'd check, is how you're packing the bowl. Make sure you stir up the shisha before packing the bowl. You want to get all of the juices from the bottom to mix with all the shisha. A lot of times people don't do this and end up smoking from the dried out shisha that's on top, and therefore not getting much flavor.
i dont know if they smoke cigs, i never have. we did stir it before packing the bowl. ill try splitting the coals in half like sambooka said and see if that helps
hmmm... that's strange. I don't think splitting the already small 30mm golden coals will help. I have a small Tangier's phunnel bowl, and for each of my sessions, I use two 30 mm golden coals with no problems and perfect results. As a matter of fact, you should problaby use three 30mm golden coals to start of the session. You said you had a large, and that bowl is truly gigantic so... What's your method of packing the bowl? What's your hole placement like? Gives us a little more details on your preparation of the hookah. This way, we can figure out if it's something wrong you are doing, or something else entirely...
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Old January 8th, 2008, 02:30 AM
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for the holes i do a single circle around the outside edge then i do a * shape in the middle



Red circles are the coals

i tried to pack the bowl loosely like sambooka does in his vids. just sprinkle it in and dont let it mound over the brim of the bowl, of course leaving the hole in the middle open.

Heres a reference picture for the size of my bowl. it doesnt seem as large as you all make it out to be.


The base water was luke warm
the stem was 1" deep into the water
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Old January 8th, 2008, 08:28 PM
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wow, thanks for the details. I wasn't expecting pics and all... Anyway, that is actually a small tangier's phunnel bowl. The large is truly gigantic. You can smoke several one hour sessions just out of one bowl! So you have the same bowl I have(small). I poke my holes in a ring patern. I poke two circles around the bowl. One is towards the outer edge, and the other is closer to the middle (each hole is about 1/4 inch apart). Your hole patern seems like way too much to me. I poke way less holes in my bowl and I've found that it provides better results. "Less is more". Also, try smoking with colder water, like ice filled or refrigerated water. This makes the session a bit smoother. I'm not sure if it would provide more flavor though. Other than that, I really don't know what else to tell ya...

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DOH! I just remembered. Have you acclimated your shisha? I can't believe I forget about that. Depending on where you live, the shisha can recieve humidity shock with changes in weather from where it's made to where it's being opened and used. This could be the cause of your "no flavor" problem. Try setting it out in the area you usually smoke it for a couple of hours(exposed and uncovered). Stir it up two or three times throughout the process and just let it sit there. Try it and let us know...
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hmm, i thought starbuzz didnt need to be acclimated? I live in california. Ill try to acclimate it and see if i get better results
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