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Old December 7th, 2009, 02:25 PM
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I have only just started smoking and decided to buy a cheap km for my first hookah. I am now wondering is it bad that it is made out of stainless steal ? because people have said brass is much better link is below



http://www.hookahshop.co.uk/butterfl...fb669de3517862
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Old December 7th, 2009, 02:27 PM
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I think you will still get an enjoyable smoke from that piece regardless.
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Old December 7th, 2009, 02:38 PM
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Thats beautiful, from what i've heardyou can't really go wrong with a KM.
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Old December 7th, 2009, 03:00 PM
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Default Re: did i choose the right km

KMs in general are well made rigs that are built to last. Stainless steel will last and smoke fine.
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Old December 7th, 2009, 03:00 PM
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looks good
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Old December 7th, 2009, 04:35 PM
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I have only just started smoking and decided to buy a cheap km for my first hookah. I am now wondering is it bad that it is made out of stainless steal ? because people have said brass is much better link is below

http://www.hookahshop.co.uk/butterfl...fb669de3517862
That stem is more commonly referred to as the Amer as the (old) Butterfly is an Amer with an extra stem section (IOW it's taller). Here are some links for you to compare:

KM Amer
KM Butterfly (old/original version)

I cannot speak for hookahshop.co.uk's stock but the early Amers and old Butterflys had some with brass or copper stem tubes. The recent batches in the US are all stainless steel with the exception of the brass ring that forms the shank (the part the base gasket goes around and is inserted into the vase).

They are good stems, not outstanding in comparison to other KMs but they do stand out because they were the first models that were really marketed using Khalil Mamoon's name and making them known. The brass ring and hose port style is not used in construction of any of the newer stems and they still have the stamped KM initials and phone numbers like many of the older KM products had.

The advantages that brass stems have over stainless steel are primarily due to the differences in construction. Brass stems have outer stem pieces that are cast, so they are thicker and heavier. Stainless steel stems on the other hand are formed from thin plate material so they're lighter and more susceptible to dents. Stainless steel does have the advantage of having superior corrosion resistance so they won't tarnish like brass or copper or form vertigris when exposed to moisture. Stainless steel stem tubes are also stronger than the brass/copper ones.
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Old December 7th, 2009, 04:50 PM
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Cant go wrong with a KM regardless. That hose is quite unique for a KM also.
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Old December 7th, 2009, 04:55 PM
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That hose is quite unique for a KM also.
They are the KM washable hoses that Europe has had for some time now. US vendors should be getting them soon.

They are a thinner gauge than the nonwashable KM hoses though.
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Old December 7th, 2009, 05:26 PM
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ye i know about the hoses im not to pleased with them il prob get a km rainbow or a namour not sure yet
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Old December 7th, 2009, 06:04 PM
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Personally the new KM hoses are extremely awkward to use. Too long and too short at the same time. +1 Nammor.
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Old December 7th, 2009, 06:43 PM
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I my rainbow hose. It looks so nice. I just wish it was washable.
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I have the exact same hookah - its fantastic =]
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Old December 7th, 2009, 08:47 PM
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There is no right or wrong when choosing a KM. They will smoke the same, purge the same and they will all look great. A brass downstem is somewhat of a luxury, in that most KMs do not have them but they will all last for a long time.

I personally think that the stem you chose is beautiful and it should smoke like a champ so matter what.

KMs are handmade though, so there's always a very small chance that you'll find a leak or some rust. In that case, contact your vendor immediately and work something out. Otherwise, enjoy your hookah and treat it like it's your newborn!
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Old December 7th, 2009, 10:15 PM
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That stem is more commonly referred to as the Amer as the (old) Butterfly is an Amer with an extra stem section (IOW it's taller). Here are some links for you to compare:

KM Amer
KM Butterfly (old/original version)

I cannot speak for hookahshop.co.uk's stock but the early Amers and old Butterflys had some with brass or copper stem tubes. The recent batches in the US are all stainless steel with the exception of the brass ring that forms the shank (the part the base gasket goes around and is inserted into the vase).

They are good stems, not outstanding in comparison to other KMs but they do stand out because they were the first models that were really marketed using Khalil Mamoon's name and making them known. The brass ring and hose port style is not used in construction of any of the newer stems and they still have the stamped KM initials and phone numbers like many of the older KM products had.

The advantages that brass stems have over stainless steel are primarily due to the differences in construction. Brass stems have outer stem pieces that are cast, so they are thicker and heavier. Stainless steel stems on the other hand are formed from thin plate material so they're lighter and more susceptible to dents. Stainless steel does have the advantage of having superior corrosion resistance so they won't tarnish like brass or copper or form vertigris when exposed to moisture. Stainless steel stem tubes are also stronger than the brass/copper ones.
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Old December 7th, 2009, 10:32 PM
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Default Re: did i choose the right km

wow you bought my exact hookah except for the base. It smokes like a champ, the stem is pretty light though because it is stainless steel. Its a good starter, im probably buying a new stem soon because i like variety
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Default Re: did i choose the right km

What do you guys think of the KM Hafa that's available on the Shishabuzz Website?
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Old December 9th, 2009, 10:15 AM
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What do you guys think of the KM Hafa that's available on the Shishabuzz Website?
I dont think the "Hafa" ion there is actually a hafa - looks more like an Exotica.
This one: http://www.shishabuzz.com/khalil-mam...cafe-blue.html
Looks more like a Hafa or Amer or whichever one I have...(think its an Amer =])
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