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Old December 8th, 2009, 04:23 PM
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Default Rumor about the Vortex Bowl

Not to start an argument. But i heard a rumor that the Vortex bowl was a stolen idea variation from the Phunnel bowl and was created just before eric at tangiers could get the phunnel bowl pattented.

Anyone know if there is any truth to this?
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Old December 8th, 2009, 04:25 PM
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it would seem like both designs would come up rather quickly in the "let's see if we can make a better hookah bowl" brainstorming process...
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Old December 8th, 2009, 04:26 PM
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Who is behind the vortex? I've never seen or heard of a person or place that is credited for it, but it's everywhere.
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Old December 8th, 2009, 04:27 PM
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Who is behind the vortex? I've never seen or heard of a person or place that is credited for it, but it's everywhere.
Yeah i would like to know this as well.. lol
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sahara smoke are beind the vortex i believe
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Old December 8th, 2009, 04:46 PM
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sahara smoke are beind the vortex i believe

Uh oh.. DUm DUm DUm.. (suspense music) lol..
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Old December 8th, 2009, 04:52 PM
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Another rumor says the Vortex is coated with lead paint and the combined tears of a thousand overworked Chinese sweatshop slaves. You heard it first here on Hookah Pro.
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Must be why it smokes so good and is cheaper than the phunnel :P
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Old December 8th, 2009, 05:05 PM
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And pixies fly and pigs walk on two legs. Seriously though This was told to me by a very reputable source. However i wanted to see if other people knew anything about this.
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Old December 8th, 2009, 05:06 PM
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Not to start an argument. But i heard a rumor that the Vortex bowl was a stolen idea variation from the Phunnel bowl and was created just before eric at tangiers could get the phunnel bowl pattented.

Anyone know if there is any truth to this?
The Phunnel bowl is not patented.

The Vortex bowl is a design based on a combination of a Phunnel bowl and scalli mod. It wasn't a new groundbreaking concept but rather an existing one made into a bowl and put into production.

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it would seem like both designs would come up rather quickly in the "let's see if we can make a better hookah bowl" brainstorming process...
The same design of the Vortex and variations of it were tested and dropped by Eric during the development of the Phunnel bowl. The Phunnel bowl wasn't originally designed to be a better bowl for smoking hookah tobacco but rather for smoking a liquid nicotine solution.

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Must be why it smokes so good and is cheaper than the phunnel :P
It's cheaper because its a low fire ceramic with cheaper glaze which is also why they can be mass-produced easily.
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Old December 8th, 2009, 05:10 PM
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OK, so there is some truth to it as far as with eric bieng involved. Eric states that it was basically done in a way so that he could not patent the tangiers phunnel bowl.
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Old December 8th, 2009, 05:34 PM
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I don't understand what you're trying to say as far as suggesting that Eric was involved with the development and/or production of the Vortex.

The Phunnel bowl was already copied and sold before the Vortex bowl came out so it doesn't matter if he wanted to patent it or not. There's also the time and expenses that he can't afford to defend such a patent, plus the fact that he would have to disclose everything that makes the Phunnel bowl perform as it does making it a perfect blueprint for foreign manufacturers to copy. These are also the major reasons why he is still reluctant to patent his new bowl design.
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What's going on man
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It was the butler...
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I don't understand what you're trying to say as far as suggesting that Eric was involved with the development and/or production of the Vortex.
Not what i am saying. I am asking if/that the vortex was done in a way that somehow made it so Eric couldnt patent the tangiers phunnel bowl.

Dont get all pissy with me young man! Lol.. i was just asking a question and looking for any affirmation to a RUMOR. lol. Im not blaming, or saying that anyone was involved in anything.

I didnt think this was going to get all contriversal.. LMAO
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Old December 8th, 2009, 06:08 PM
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My statement that you quoted was in response to this:
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OK, so there is some truth to it as far as with eric bieng involved.
The second statement was to explain why he couldn't patent it. There's also how the phunnels got copied to begin with but I'm not going to discuss that here.

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Not what i am saying. I am asking if/that the vortex was done in a way that somehow made it so Eric couldnt patent the tangiers phunnel bowl.

Dont get all pissy with me young man! Lol.. i was just asking a question and looking for any affirmation to a RUMOR. lol. Im not blaming, or saying that anyone was involved in anything.
Pissy? I'm just trying to help you out here. I don't understand why you're getting defensive. You even dropped some bold, underlined, and enlarged text on me.

Would it be more helpful if I said the Vortex was not a deliberate attempt to block Eric from patenting his Phunnel bowl?
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Old December 8th, 2009, 06:15 PM
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The vortex was out years after the phunnel was created. It's just someone's variation and then they outsource and mass produce it in China for cheap.
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These are also the major reasons why he is still reluctant to patent his new bowl design.

OK people i think we are missing the point here, WHAT NEW BOWL DESIGN ??
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Old December 8th, 2009, 06:21 PM
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Oh that. I think that was a typo. What I really meant is
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Pissy? I'm just trying to help you out here. I don't understand why you're getting defensive. You even dropped some bold, underlined, and enlarged text on me.

Would it be more helpful if I said the Vortex was not a deliberate attempt to block Eric from patenting his Phunnel bowl?
You are right.. Sorry foibled. However i wasnt getting deffensive though. hence the LOL's

However, YES! that does help me alot.

Oh and as far as me saying tht Eric was involved, i wasnt meaning that he was physically involved in it, just that he was indirectly involved. lol. Hard to explain what i mean/ment. LMAO
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i'm almost positive it was Colonel Mustard in the library with the candlestick....


haha but in all seriousness, i think i could have invented the vortex bowl.... its not exactly rocket science. like mackmaven said, it would be easy to come up with that one during a nice brainstorming session (theres only so much that can be done with a bowl)
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Oh that. I think that was a typo. What I really meant is
Im still waiting for the sentance to finish, cant leave us hanging here
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Im still waiting for the sentance to finish, cant leave us hanging here

the suspense is killing me...
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Im still waiting for the sentance to finish, cant leave us hanging here

HAHAHAHA.. i think he doesnt want to let the cat completely out of the bag. LMAO!
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(theres only so much that can be done with a bowl)
Don't bet on it Look at the CrownHookah Glass bowls
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