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Old December 22nd, 2009, 11:28 PM
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Question **Help** First set-up..

So I set up my Hookah with Havanah Grape Mint and I got no flavor, I switched to Fruit Punch or Tropical Fruit and I got a little taste but then the smoke started to get harsh, I am wondering what I am doing wrong

This is my first time setting this thing up to test it out any help would be awesome thanks guys!

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Old December 22nd, 2009, 11:30 PM
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Default Re: **Help** First set-up..

what coals are you using?
how many are you using?
are you letting the coal light up fully and ash over b4 using them?
what bowl are you using?
how much foil did you use?
and are you wrapping the foil around the bowl tight enough?
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Old December 23rd, 2009, 12:14 AM
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what coals are you using?
I am using Miraculum Coal


how many are you using?
The first time I used 1 the second time I used 2

are you letting the coal light up fully and ash over b4 using them?
Yes I am , I let them turn white (about 10-15 mins)

what bowl are you using?
I honestly don't know but I will take a picture of it


how much foil did you use?
1 sheet of regular foil, but I found some heavy duty double layer type I plan to use when I figure out what I did wrong.

and are you wrapping the foil around the bowl tight enough?
Yes, like if it was a drum.



Thanks for the quick repsonse

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Old December 23rd, 2009, 12:58 AM
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How are you packing the bowl?
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Old December 23rd, 2009, 01:06 AM
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Default Re: **Help** First set-up..

lol i forgot about this thread.. so sorry.. but yea u was going to ask the same question as SonOfGram

best thing you can do is make a vid of you setting up and we can point out your mistakes.. we tried to get other people that had trounle to record themselves but it never picked up... you can be the first
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Old December 23rd, 2009, 01:42 AM
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lol i forgot about this thread.. so sorry.. but yea u was going to ask the same question as SonOfGram

best thing you can do is make a vid of you setting up and we can point out your mistakes.. we tried to get other people that had trounle to record themselves but it never picked up... you can be the first
I was lightly packing the bowl and I made sure it was not over the rim. I will do a video and throw it up on youtube hopefully we can figure this out

A friend of mine said to just use a pinch of shisha and to spread it around but I would think it wouldn't be enough....

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with a bowl that small, one big pinch is good. liken it to the size of 3 peanut m&ms and it's just about right. press it down so it won't touch the foil, but don't pack it in really hard - you want it to be a little loose to get a good amt. of airflow. I'd also break the coal up into a couple pieces. If you get it started up with the whole coal but it starts to get really harsh, then just take off a piece and you'll be golden. Good luck!
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Old December 23rd, 2009, 01:52 AM
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with a bowl that small, one big pinch is good. liken it to the size of 3 peanut m&ms and it's just about right. press it down so it won't touch the foil, but don't pack it in really hard - you want it to be a little loose to get a good amt. of airflow. I'd also break the coal up into a couple pieces. If you get it started up with the whole coal but it starts to get really harsh, then just take off a piece and you'll be golden. Good luck!

Thank you for the tip, I will try that when I record the vid
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Hopefully all goes well!
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Old December 23rd, 2009, 03:52 AM
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Honestly trash that bowl and get yourself a cheap Egyptian bowl. They are of one of the best bowls in my opinion. Also how are you making the holes?
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Honestly trash that bowl and get yourself a cheap Egyptian bowl. They are of one of the best bowls in my opinion. Also how are you making the holes?
Egyptian is too broad of a term. Some are great and some are terrible. It is quite the gamble. Just about every bowl should be able to smoke well. It's just a matter of how hard you need to work at finding the perfect combination of factors, especially regarding heat management.

I would say that you may be over heating the bowl if the smoke was harsh. It's odd that you were getting no flavor from a mint though. Are you a cigarette smoker?
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Old December 23rd, 2009, 02:58 PM
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Just about every bowl should be able to smoke well. It's just a matter of how hard you need to work at finding the perfect combination of factors, especially regarding heat management
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Old December 23rd, 2009, 05:45 PM
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Egyptian is too broad of a term. Some are great and some are terrible. It is quite the gamble. Just about every bowl should be able to smoke well. It's just a matter of how hard you need to work at finding the perfect combination of factors, especially regarding heat management.

I would say that you may be over heating the bowl if the smoke was harsh. It's odd that you were getting no flavor from a mint though. Are you a cigarette smoker?
I smoke cigarettes every once in a great while (Newports), I'm tight on money hence why I purchased the hookah from a friend instead of a new one. I think I may have burned the shisha if I remember correctly . But I am going to record a video of how I setup so everyone can critique what I am screwing up on. Appreciate it guys

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Old December 23rd, 2009, 09:06 PM
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Default Re: **Help** First set-up..

I was wondering if any of you have ever tried those Hookah Shots?
I am wondering if they are good to try?
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Old December 23rd, 2009, 09:41 PM
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they are ok for n00bies. Hookah Hookah is very hard to burn
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Old December 23rd, 2009, 10:07 PM
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Thanks for the heads up FusionX, I'm using Al Fakher right now and Havanah ..
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Old December 23rd, 2009, 11:59 PM
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Yea i tried a few of the shots they are nice for like 1 bowl haha, at a dollar a peice though its nice to try new flavors.
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Old December 24th, 2009, 01:32 AM
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Every flavor I've tried from hookah hookah shots has had a horrible chemical taste, they really aren't worth the dollar. haha
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Old December 26th, 2009, 08:06 PM
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Hey guys I purchased 250g of Starbuzz Exotic Blue Mist....

I think my problem was the shisha I had before was just old so hopefully this works good if not I am out 26 bucks w0o h0o

Any of you guys try this stuff?

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Most anyone that smokes SB loves blue mist, I'm partial to it, my favorite is citrus mist as far as SB goes. I'd rather load up a bowl of Nakhla any day though. I like a buzz with my tobacco. Nakhla is extremely easy to get heat managment down on, but it can pack a good buzz for anyone inexperienced.
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Old December 27th, 2009, 02:15 AM
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Alright well I deff got more flavor then with the other boxed stuff but I keep getting this problem...



It looks like I keep burning the shisha and I can't figure this out, I am only use one coal broken in 2 Miraculum QL's putting them on the edges and rotating and ashing every 10-15 mins....
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Old December 27th, 2009, 11:58 PM
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**Bump for some edumacation**
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Default Re: **Help** First set-up..

Where do we start?
If you don't want to buy exoticas (8 dollars for a box of 100 COALS!) then keep smoking those disgusting quicklights... eww.

Pack the bowl as you were doing with the tight foil wrap... But as for shisha you don't have enough shisha... You need to pinch it on there so it is a centimeter below the foil... Not quite touching & packed down a TAD. You gotta have airflow

Your problem is your holes are too big
Use a toothpick or a needle
Your holes should be as thin as this:

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