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Old January 31st, 2010, 10:26 AM
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Default Harsh taste with Nakhla shisha ?

Does anyone else get a harsh taste of Nakhla sihsha ? I think its due to the millions of stems you find in their shisha , or is just me ? I love its taste and heavy smoke(which i have been unable to get from other shisha brands), I just can't get the harsh taste to go away at the middle of the bowl , can someone please help me ? Is it my technique ?
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Old January 31st, 2010, 10:29 AM
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Default Re: Harsh taste with Nakhla shisha ?

I have the exact same problem. Are you new to hookah at all? using a different kind of coal from your usual?
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Old January 31st, 2010, 10:32 AM
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it might be your technique... it could be your using too much heat that the shisha burns fast and gives you the harshness.... how many coals are you using? are you rotating the coals?
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Old January 31st, 2010, 10:38 AM
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I'd say probably too much heat. It handles high heat well at the beginning, but if you keep too much heat too long, it'll burn the top and go harsh on you. Once you get it started (5-10 minutes in), back off on the heat a bit and see how that works for you.
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Old January 31st, 2010, 10:39 AM
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Default Re: Harsh taste with Nakhla shisha ?

people always say stems cause issues but DMC smoked a bowl of just stems and said it was fine.

i get it some times with certain flavors. how often are you moving your coals? are you keeping them to the out side of the bowl? foil layers/type? how big of a gap under the foil?

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Old January 31st, 2010, 11:46 AM
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Default Re: Harsh taste with Nakhla shisha ?

i got the same problem with al waha peach, it always burns on me
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Old January 31st, 2010, 11:55 AM
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Default Re: Harsh taste with Nakhla shisha ?

Make sure not to overpack your bowl. If the shisha touches the foil, it's a bad sign and it'll burn. Remove some shisha if this happens.
Also, like others said, too much heat can cause this as well. Try to remove a coal or two and see if that helps.
Last, try adding some ice or ice-cold water into the vase, that should help some.

Over here we only smoke Nakhla, and it's a great smoke every time
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Old January 31st, 2010, 12:49 PM
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might be too much heat try using 2 coals and dont forget to rotate them
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Old January 31st, 2010, 12:55 PM
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Watch your heat. If you're getting harsh smoke, it's because it is way too hot. Remove a coal and rotate!
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Old January 31st, 2010, 01:39 PM
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Heat management I never have a problem with Nakhla I always use a egyptian bowl with Nakhla and two coals. Tangiers is the shisha that gives me problems.
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Old January 31st, 2010, 01:47 PM
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i never get a harsh taste out of my nak, sounds like burning or overheating atleast, try these things
-use two layers of foil
-use more holes
-fewer coals
-less shisha (it can expand when heated so be weary of packing to high)
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Old January 31st, 2010, 06:29 PM
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I say your not overpacking your nakhla enuff...
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Old January 31st, 2010, 08:05 PM
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I say your not overpacking your nakhla enuff...
LOL! I think you'll need to provide a link to your thread(s) to explain that
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Old January 31st, 2010, 08:19 PM
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LOL! I think you'll need to provide a link to your thread(s) to explain that
lol, over packing nakhla is pretty easy, you just make it so 1/3-1/2 of the tobacco is over the rim and then foil, poke holes all the way down. you dont need as much heat and it lasts a while but you do get a different flavor with this method though and the hose will ghost but it goes away after a few days or a couple of bowls
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Old January 31st, 2010, 08:27 PM
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lol, over packing nakhla is pretty easy, you just make it so 1/3-1/2 of the tobacco is over the rim and then foil, poke holes all the way down. you dont need as much heat and it lasts a while but you do get a different flavor with this method though and the hose will ghost but it goes away after a few days or a couple of bowls
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Less heat when over packing! <--very important!

So, I made the (in)famous how to over pack Nakhla video. For what it's worth, I've given up on the technique. It works just fine but I find it's not really worth it (to me) in the long run. I've gone back to loose packing in a wide shallow egyptian bowl and have dedicated a hose to Nakhla DA. I'm finding that a nice sweet apple taste is becoming more prominent as time goes by.
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Old January 31st, 2010, 08:59 PM
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Default Re: Harsh taste with Nakhla shisha ?

ive never had this proble, but i alway get a weird tingle in my throat like not burning but a weird tingle, not a good kind. dont get it from anything else. just this stuff
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Old January 31st, 2010, 09:22 PM
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Less heat when over packing! <--very important!

So, I made the (in)famous how to over pack Nakhla video. For what it's worth, I've given up on the technique. It works just fine but I find it's not really worth it (to me) in the long run. I've gone back to loose packing in a wide shallow egyptian bowl and have dedicated a hose to Nakhla DA. I'm finding that a nice sweet apple taste is becoming more prominent as time goes by.
i agree, you get a great flavor for about one rounds of coals but after that you still get a strong flavor but it starts to get a little burnt over tones, not really burning just the taste. its nice to try once in a while but it is rather wasteful

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Old February 1st, 2010, 01:32 AM
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Default Re: Harsh taste with Nakhla shisha ?

i havent had this problem yet thankfully, but i havent got my order for the Nak yet lol. i am new to hookah but im really getting into it so i really hope this dosnt happen to me in the near future when i get my shisha
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lol, over packing nakhla is pretty easy, you just make it so 1/3-1/2 of the tobacco is over the rim and then foil, poke holes all the way down. you dont need as much heat and it lasts a while but you do get a different flavor with this method though and the hose will ghost but it goes away after a few days or a couple of bowls
-matt
That would be normal overpacking... the call for the link was for an altogether different beast (50g or so )
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Old February 4th, 2010, 08:28 PM
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Default Re: Harsh taste with Nakhla shisha ?

Thanks folks for all your advice.

It seems to me the consensus was right. I packed less this time and it definitely helped. I've tried rotating coals but by the time I do that its too late. I'm gonna better heat management next with less packing as well and see how it goes.

Thanks again to all.
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Old February 4th, 2010, 09:10 PM
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haha glad you got it man when rotating just try and do it every 15 minutes or so to keep the smoke fresh
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use an egyptian preferable a meium pack it below the rim use 2 or 3 coals it should be fine
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