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Old February 3rd, 2010, 11:35 PM
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why do people think some hookahs make more smoke than others? unless it leaks i see it playing no role. i see it being all the bowl.
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Old February 3rd, 2010, 11:39 PM
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It all comes down really to the tobacco used. But everything from the bowl to the hookah and even the hose can change the percieved amount of smoke. Due to the less restricted pulls some hookahs and hoses offer, some may get the impression that more smoke is produced. If I use my KM with a nammor or narbish I feel like I get a large amount of smoke, yet if I use the same bowl and tobacco on my sheecool with a more restricted hose I feel as though less smoke is produced.
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Old February 3rd, 2010, 11:40 PM
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it depends on the guage of the tubing regarding how much smoke is allowed to pass through. The pipe doesn't actually ''make''smoke. Nor does the bowl have all too much to do w/it.
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Old February 3rd, 2010, 11:41 PM
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because i have a qt and a km and they both seem to make the same amount of smoke. if its a restricted flow it can still make the same amont of smoke it just takes more effort to breath in right?
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Old February 3rd, 2010, 11:51 PM
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if its a restricted flow it can still make the same amont of smoke it just takes more effort to breath in right?
Yep, that's exactly what it is.
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Old February 4th, 2010, 12:05 AM
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Depends on the tobacco, nothing produces clouds like starbuzz.
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Old February 4th, 2010, 12:11 AM
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Depends on the tobacco, nothing produces clouds like starbuzz.
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Old February 4th, 2010, 12:13 AM
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Depends on the tobacco, nothing produces clouds like starbuzz.
just dump a ballston of glycerin in any tobacco and get the same effect
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Old February 4th, 2010, 12:17 AM
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just dump a ballston of glycerin in any tobacco and get the same effect
Thats exactly it! Basically the more glycerin you have the more vapor that is easily created. Basically you pay a premium to let them charge you for a lot of money for water weight...
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Old February 4th, 2010, 12:22 AM
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You need everything, hookah is a lot like a clock lots of parts that need to work together, you need to kno how to pack a bowl, heat manage, the tobacoo, the pipe and the hose everything works together in order to make a great taste and clouds. The biggest factor is you the smoker!
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Old February 4th, 2010, 12:57 AM
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It's the diameter of the downstem. Larger diameter downstems allow more smoke to be pulled through in one drag. So, some pipes do produce more smoke that others.
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Old February 4th, 2010, 01:12 AM
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All (well most) hookahs will produce the same amount of smoke, irregardless of the stem or hose gauge.

For example if you're smoking out of a wide gauge egyptian and take a 5 second drag and then smoke out of a small gauge chinese and take a 10+ second drag, they'll produce the same amount of smoke, the only difference would be a tighter draw of the chinese.
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Old February 4th, 2010, 01:13 AM
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All (well most) hookahs will produce the same amount of smoke, irregardless of the stem or hose gauge.

For example if you're smoking out of a wide gauge egyptian and take a 5 second drag and then smoke out of a small gauge chinese and take a 10+ second drag, they'll produce the same amount of smoke, the only difference would be a tighter draw of the chinese.
thats what im saying its not like one hookah changes your lungs
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Old February 4th, 2010, 02:10 AM
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thats what im saying its not like one hookah changes your lungs
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Old February 4th, 2010, 02:34 AM
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Theres some different factors
1. Some hookahs are better made than others
a. Less Leaks
b. Wider stem tubing. Doesn't really mean more smoke but you get more smoke because the draw is much easier than those with a smaller diameter.
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Old February 4th, 2010, 07:13 AM
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yeah alot has to do with the size bowl you use and amount of heat...If I use the same 35g bowl on my KM and my small mya or even my cheap havana I'll pretty much get the same smoke every time...
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Old February 4th, 2010, 10:44 AM
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I always thought it was because they were less informed, and 10 minutes on this site helps steer them in the right direction.
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Old February 4th, 2010, 11:29 AM
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I always thought it was because they were less informed, and 10 minutes on this site helps steer them in the right direction.
ya ive heard a lot of nonsense from people over the years thats why i asked. i thought i could have just been stubborn. some crap ive heard is that taller hookahs make moresmoke. to me that would be the same as saying the longer the hose the more smoke. after being on multiple hookah forums ive see the "what hookah makes the most smoke" question a million times. i was jsut wondering that is all
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Old February 5th, 2010, 05:15 PM
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b. Wider stem tubing. Doesn't really mean more smoke but you get more smoke because the draw is much easier than those with a smaller diameter.
A wider tubing also means you're drawing more air faster, which means more oxygen hitting the coal, therefore more heat, and by extension, more smoke.
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Finally, people begin to understand it isn't what hookah you have, you just have to compensate for different factors with different hookahs.
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Old February 5th, 2010, 09:42 PM
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It all comes down really to the tobacco used.
+1 and the heat management
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Old February 5th, 2010, 09:45 PM
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i think pipe means alot. from simple things to the purge to gauge size and everything. it all plays a factor just like a car. everything works hand in hand.
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Old February 5th, 2010, 09:53 PM
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i think pipe means alot. from simple things to the purge to gauge size and everything. it all plays a factor just like a car. everything works hand in hand.
a purge has nothing to do with the amount of smoke. it does nothing when inhaling unless it leaks
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Old February 5th, 2010, 10:46 PM
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Larger gauge just means you get the smoke quicker, as in you fill your lungs faster. With a smaller gauge you have to draw longer but what makes smoke is tobacco and heat.
Also kittens!
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Larger gauge just means you get the smoke quicker, as in you fill your lungs faster. With a smaller gauge you have to draw longer but what makes smoke is tobacco and heat.
Also kittens!
What is it with HP and kittens lately?? I kind of like it..
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