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Old February 13th, 2010, 03:15 PM
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These days I am stuck in Mashhad which is one of the best cities in the world to visit as a result of fantastic architecture, great people, lovely climate (for right now at least) and lots of great tobacco!

I had a long, crappy day dealing with pencil neck bureaucrats and so I went off in search of a decent meal and a smoke with my translator and after successfully having dealt with the former we went to little cafe near by for some great Ghalyoon action.

Much to my surprise the owner spoke a bit of English and recommended that we have an Al-Shamim (a popular Iranian made moassel that is washed but not highly processed) Saffron and plain mix. I have to say it was a delightful mix of fig, saffron and mildly sweet molasses flavours that went great with the platter of tea and fruit we had.

After a relaxing time smoking and drinking tea and losing at backgammon I saw a huge blond guy with a buzzcut walk in that looked like a more fit version of Drew Carey carrying a briefcase in one hand and a hard, Mya like travel case in the other. He plopped himself down at the table next to us proceeded take out various little religious tracts out of his briefcase give them to the locals. He came over to my table and hit me up with with whole "have you found Jesus" bit and was definitely giving off an Elmer Gantry meets Lee Ermey sorta vibe. The locals were just ignoring him which was surprising given how loud and aggressive he was being. I told him to chill out and "when in Rome do as the Roman would do" to which responded that "that jeebus (that's how he pronounced it) expects more from his servants".

About this time he busted out this Ed Hardy rig out of his carry case and set up, loading the bowl with SB Blue Mist and lighting a bunch of instant coals. The owner looked pissed but didn't say anything.

About this time someone noticed the 1940s cheesecake style graphic on the vase and told the owner. The owner got all pissed and started complaining about it being "pornographic" and the locals started fussing which got the bible thumper to start squawking about how "I'm an American and I got a right to do what i'm doing". I told him that his rights stop once he goes over the boarder and he best pack up his stuff and get.

About this time a couple members of the local morality police (yes, they really do call them that) popped into see what the fuss was all about and they were less then happy to see the religious propaganda and the pinup girl vase. After a bit of yelling they dragged the bible thumper and his gear off. I had my translator call the Swiss embassy since they handle American diplomatic stuff and find out what happened to the dolt. Basically the Iranian government deported him with all possible haste although I have no idea what happened to his Ed Hardy rig.

The moral of the story is that when you travel abroad you respect local customs and mores and behave as any good guest should. If can't manage that then expect to be treated the way any obnoxious trespasser would.
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Old February 13th, 2010, 03:32 PM
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While the story is pretty amusing, it's a double standard IMO. If the roles were reversed and that happened in the US, the outcome would be very different. I do agree wholeheartedly about respecting local customs and mores and I am in no way defending this idiot's actions.

Anyhow, the true moral of the story is to not smoke an Ed Hardy hookah around Hajo. He'll have you're ass deported.
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Old February 13th, 2010, 04:19 PM
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lmao funny story hajo.. what an idiot to try and push his religion onto others
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Old February 13th, 2010, 04:24 PM
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Yeah what a jack ass. If someone says dude calm down, especially in a foreign country, you probably should.
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Old February 13th, 2010, 05:36 PM
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While the story is pretty amusing, it's a double standard IMO. If the roles were reversed and that happened in the US, the outcome would be very different. I do agree wholeheartedly about respecting local customs and mores and I am in no way defending this idiot's actions.

Anyhow, the true moral of the story is to not smoke an Ed Hardy hookah around Hajo. He'll have you're ass deported.
I'm confused about the matter of double standards I wonder if you could clarify for me exactly what you mean?

As I am just a normal traveling salesman type guy I don't have any influence about who gets deported. That is up the local government in every country on the planet.

Anyway, a bunch of other cool and funny stuff happened as well so i'll likely write something about those things.
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Old February 13th, 2010, 05:50 PM
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I'm confused about the matter of double standards I wonder if you could clarify for me exactly what you mean?

As I am just a normal traveling salesman type guy I don't have any influence about who gets deported. That is up the local government in every country on the planet.

Anyway, a bunch of other cool and funny stuff happened as well so i'll likely write something about those things.
Eh, he's trying to say that if a similar situation happened in the US with some guy preaching about converting to Islam, it would have turned out differently. Well no shit, Iran is much different than here, but that isn't any excuse to act like a loud culturally ignorant bible thumping tard.

I would have laughed my ass off at that guy getting hauled away.
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Old February 13th, 2010, 05:53 PM
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That's the trouble with a lot of tourists who live in a 'bubble' and are not aware of any other cultures other than their own.

Being a Turkish muslim living in the UK (allbeit I was born here, but nonetheless brought up in Turkish culture by my parents and have learnt about English culture as I've grown up), I fully understand the importance of respecting the culture of the country you travel to.

Unfortunately, many of the UK's young teenagers and less educated youths travel abroad on holidays where they proceed to get drunk and start disrespecting the customs and beliefs of that country and then wonder why they get deported/thrown in a cell/receive a beating from the locals.

Sadly it is mostly evident in Tourists that come from English speaking countries (i.e. UK, USA, Australia, Canada).

Now this isn't an attack on all Tourists from those countries and I don't wish to generalise, but from my own personal experiences, this is what I have learnt.
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Old February 13th, 2010, 06:04 PM
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Hajo Get some pics going
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Old February 13th, 2010, 09:02 PM
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I'm confused about the matter of double standards I wonder if you could clarify for me exactly what you mean?

As I am just a normal traveling salesman type guy I don't have any influence about who gets deported. That is up the local government in every country on the planet.

Anyway, a bunch of other cool and funny stuff happened as well so i'll likely write something about those things.
The you deporting someone thing was a joke.

britjh22 kinda hit on the double standard thing. If the reverse equivalent happened here in the states, it would probably lead to public outcry and end up with they guy suing for a lot of money.

While I think deporting the guy is a bit extreme for what he did, there is no excuse for acting like an ignorant fuck. I think mugging the guy and selling his EH hookah to the next Drew Carey looking bible thumper that comes in would have been a more appropriate course of action.
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Old February 13th, 2010, 11:47 PM
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I never said I deported anyone. I did say that I had my translator call the Swiss embassy since they handle American diplomatic stuff and find out what happened to the dolt since I wanted make sure that he was O.K. and make a fuss if he got abused.

As to the double standard, well I have a hard time imagining an Muslim proselytizer from Iran being very well accepted in the U.S. but yes, a highly secularized society is less likely to have a problem with religious diversity then a theocracy like Iran.

Personally I think having morality police is too authoritarian for my taste and deporting the guy was a bit more then one deserves for being obnoxious in my view. Still, different societies have different mores and it's not reasonable to expect the guests to change so as to make the guest feel more comfortable.

With rare exceptions Iranians treat foreigners well and tend to be quite hospitable. It really is nothing like what is seen on American TV.
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Old February 14th, 2010, 12:10 AM
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That's the trouble with a lot of tourists who live in a 'bubble' and are not aware of any other cultures other than their own.

Being a Turkish muslim living in the UK (allbeit I was born here, but nonetheless brought up in Turkish culture by my parents and have learnt about English culture as I've grown up), I fully understand the importance of respecting the culture of the country you travel to.

Unfortunately, many of the UK's young teenagers and less educated youths travel abroad on holidays where they proceed to get drunk and start disrespecting the customs and beliefs of that country and then wonder why they get deported/thrown in a cell/receive a beating from the locals.

Sadly it is mostly evident in Tourists that come from English speaking countries (i.e. UK, USA, Australia, Canada).

Now this isn't an attack on all Tourists from those countries and I don't wish to generalise, but from my own personal experiences, this is what I have learnt.
Great post!

My father was quite a fan cultural anthropology and all things relating to human difference and as a result of rather unsettled lives he instilled in me an appreciation of that which makes a people unique. Sometimes those things are great, sometimes vile and sometimes just curious.

While it's true that English (and by that I mean from the U.K.) tourists have a terrible reputation I would venture a guess that it's mainly a result of football and drinking type holidays. My personal experience (not that it means much) of U.K. tourists has been pretty positive although the places I frequent likely attack a different sort of tourist. I also have to say that German tourists have an excellent reputation and from everything i've seen (not that it matters much) shows that such a reputation is well deserved. The tricky thing is to know how to act in alien (to me) cultures and in large measure I don't know how to do that since I basically deal with just engineers, bureaucrats, industrial managers, investors and other such types that often are highly familiar with Westerners. Since i'm an idiot with languages I leave most interactions with normal people up to whom ever my translator maybe so i'm really missing out on a lot.

Anyway, I brought up all this stuff basically because I thought it was funny to see the sort of personal that travels to the IRI with Ed Hardy rig.

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Yikes, some people have no self-awareness...
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Old February 14th, 2010, 01:36 AM
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love the Elmer Grantry reference! great film if anyone hasn't seen it, classic Lancaster...
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loool i still cant get over the fact that sum bible basher went to iran and tried to convert ppl looool
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uh-oh! lol
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