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Old March 1st, 2010, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: still not getting any flavor :'(

Too many holes in the foil maybe? Might just be sucking on too much air.
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Old March 1st, 2010, 05:21 PM
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I understand my pipe is a cheap discounted hookah. But the fact of the matter is even if i bought this same pipe at a hookah shop for 50 bucks it would still be the same pipe just a higher cost.
Be glad you didn't pay 50 bucks for it then. And it's disgusting that there's companies out there that charge so much for such cheap, inferior, potmetal crap.

The fact is, people have such respect for higher-end pipes for a reason. I owned several cheapo-chinese specials in my day and even when they were brand new they failed to deliver a fraction of the flavor that my Khalil Mamoon does.

The simple fact is that a pipe of inferior design, made of inferior materials by means of inferior methods is going to produce an inferior smoke.

I understand that quality pipes can be pricey, but I honestly think it's part of your problem. You've eliminated every other possiblity, but it remains that you're using a sub-par pipe.

In the meantime, toss the quicklights, upgrading to naturals can give you an instantaneous improvement of flavor. I also have found that using a heba diffuser can help quite a bit with improving the experience of smoking these chinese pipes.
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Old March 1st, 2010, 07:36 PM
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i understand a cheap pipe is a cheap pipe you get what you pay for.

The thing is, there are no leaks. I always check before each session that it is air tight. I cover and theres no pull. And like you said, even if its cheap it will still work if its air tight.

I understand my pipe is a cheap discounted hookah. But the fact of the matter is even if i bought this same pipe at a hookah shop for 50 bucks it would still be the same pipe just a higher cost.
Yes, if it seals, then that's not the problem. You're not getting any flavor, but are you getting smoke?
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Old March 2nd, 2010, 12:59 AM
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yes i am.

Ladies and gentlemen i may have found the issue. I took a deep look down my stem, shit was dirty as hell. I guess i didn't once think to believe that a company would sell me a shit dirty hookah. I cleaned the hell out of the inside of the stem and scrubbed it and black crap came out. it looks like residue from a bunch of sessions when in reality i did not have that many.

I cleaned it out and i hope to give it a test run later when my dad goes to sleep. thank you everyone for your help and input. I'm sorry for bothering you guys so much, but i greatly appreciate it
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Old March 2nd, 2010, 02:38 AM
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yes i am.

Ladies and gentlemen i may have found the issue. I took a deep look down my stem, shit was dirty as hell. I guess i didn't once think to believe that a company would sell me a shit dirty hookah. I cleaned the hell out of the inside of the stem and scrubbed it and black crap came out. it looks like residue from a bunch of sessions when in reality i did not have that many.

I cleaned it out and i hope to give it a test run later when my dad goes to sleep. thank you everyone for your help and input. I'm sorry for bothering you guys so much, but i greatly appreciate it
No worries.

It'll be really interesting if that's the culprit. That would definitely be new to me. So I don't think I quite understand. Did it come with a bunch of crap in the stem, or have you had a handful of successful smokes, then nothing? Or did I miss it altogether?
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Old March 2nd, 2010, 02:38 AM
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I think you just can't taste it, for example I feel burnt taste, I give it to my bro and he's smokes it like the taste is good... O.o
I HATE THIS. My husband "hot boxes" my hookahs all the time. He hands it to me, I take 1 pull, and I'm coughing my lungs out. I glare at him and he declares " but it wasn't hot!" We have very different "harsh meters" apparently because I will cough at the littlest throat tickle/ harshness where he won't even notice!

As for OP's question. We need more information. How do you set up your bowls? (Packing, foil holes) How many coals do you use at a time? Have you let them completely ash over before putting them on the bowl? Do you have some kind of wind cover to heat the bowl up for optimal heating and then add and remove as needed?

I have found that generally every al-waha I have ever tried w/ the exception of after 9 is flavorless. I hate al-waha, and will never buy it again.

nm.. I posted too soon iw/out reading the rest of the post. I hope the "crud" is the problem. If not, we'll help you diagnose.

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Old March 2nd, 2010, 08:51 AM
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I hate al-waha, and will never buy it again.
KK I new I liked you for a reason!

As far as OP goes, I hope that's the case. Pretty strange indeed and I hope they wouldn't send out a dirty hookah. That makes me not want to order from them, even for $30.
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the only thing i can think of is a leak
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Old March 2nd, 2010, 09:57 AM
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I would try getting a standard egyptian bowl or vortex or phunnel. Make sure you clean your pipe really well. Any maybe upgrade to natural coals. If this dosent work im not sure man. I mean ive had my far share of bad bowls but a flavorless bowl ive never come by. If none of the tips people gave you work then its too things its either your pipe or you. Anyways hope everything works out for you.

Edit: Glad you found the problem.
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The crud in the stem is residue from the manufacturing process. They dont scrub em after they weld em and stuff. ALWAYS clean your hookah after you buy them and ALWAYS clean em after you smoke out of them.
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The crud in the stem is residue from the manufacturing process. They dont scrub em after they weld em and stuff. ALWAYS clean your hookah after you buy them and ALWAYS clean em after you smoke out of them.
Thats the number one rule in my book a clean hookah is a happy hookah!
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Old March 3rd, 2010, 01:22 AM
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cleaned my hookah out thoroughly recently. I have yet to smoke out of it yet. I just picked up some SB Bluemist. If this doesn't work. ill kill someone
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Old March 3rd, 2010, 01:25 AM
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cleaned my hookah out thoroughly recently. I have yet to smoke out of it yet. I just picked up some SB Bluemist. If this doesn't work. ill kill someone

I sure hope it works, I love BM (:
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Old March 3rd, 2010, 01:26 AM
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I sure hope it works, I love BM (:
so do i, and considering it was 15 bucks it better freakn work lol
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Old March 3rd, 2010, 01:33 AM
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Default Re: still not getting any flavor :'(

Smoke some of your tobacco in your friend's hookah and see if it's the tobacco.

Use your friend's coals to see if it's your coals.
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