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Old March 1st, 2010, 05:17 PM
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Hi everyone,

Sorry if this is your typical newbie question but how many coals (Coco Nara) should I use for a bowl like this one?

http://www.hookahshop.co.uk/aladin-s...60-p-1369.html

I've been using 2 but am not getting particularly huge clouds from it.
Also, does anyone have any tips for getting the foil as tight as possible on the bowl? I'm pretty sure my technique has resulted in burning my tobacco as I'm getting a harsh taste and a terrible smell from the bowl. I'm using a toothpick to poke the holes.

Thanks in advance everyone
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Old March 1st, 2010, 05:28 PM
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toothpick may be making big holes.. well the toothpicks i have are to big...

you will get diff clouds depending on the tobacco used not the bowl.....

and 2 coals is fine for that bowl.. try using a windcover with it if you want more heat
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Old March 1st, 2010, 05:33 PM
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For tighter foil, put bowl on counter/hold between your legs. Pull the foil taught with both hands and then fold the sides over pull it down the edge of the bowl. Sometimes I find that pulling the foil and twisting it on the stem of the bowl will make it more taught.
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Old March 1st, 2010, 05:55 PM
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Yeah 2 coals is fine for that bowl, make sure you're leaving a small gap between the top of the packed tobacco and the foil, and make sure you're holes aren't too big. Like Hatter said, some toothpicks leave large holes. Sometimes I'll use a small strip of wire tape or electrical tape below the curvature of the bowl, just make sure it's on top of foil not the bowl itself to prevent the adhesive from melting onto the clay. Windcovers are also a great way to "cook" the tobacco and get it heated evenly, just make sure to take it off once you get some good clouds to prevent burning.
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Old March 2nd, 2010, 05:42 PM
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Thanks all for the advice, I've actually been keeping my windcover on for the session duration. Wasn't aware you had to take it off to prevent burning - thanks for the tip
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Old March 2nd, 2010, 09:27 PM
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Generally I find that if my hands are slightly damp from rinsing after putting the tobacco in, I get better grip/traction on the foil and can get it pretty tight. Just be careful though because at that point you can rip it along the edges.

Like Fresh said above, make sure that there's a good amount of space between the foil and the tobacco so it doesn't burn onto it. When poking holes, take into consideration the type of tobacco you're using because some are more resistant to heat than others. The more holes you put, the less heat gets trapped inside, so it's trying to find the right balance of holes and coals to get a good smoke.

The general idea I implement for using my windcover is I'll start off with it until my bowl is nice and warm, getting good smoke, then I'll take it off. If the temperature drops too low and the smoke gets bad, I'll take a coal off and put the windcover back on. While hookah is a relaxing pastime, sometimes tending to the coals will keep you on your toes. I with you luck in getting the outcome you're looking for.
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Old March 3rd, 2010, 07:57 AM
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Thanks very much!

I watched a member's youtube video last night on heat management and it explained alot. I think my main issues are packing too much tobacco in the bowl and the size of the holes in my foil. For my next session I'm going to use a pin to prick the holes and make sure that there's a decent gap between the tobacco and the foil. The AF Bubble Gum that I smoked the other night got roasted and it sucked, haha...as soon as I put the coals on I could hear the tobacco sizzling underneath. Then about 10 mins later when I removed the coals I got a tiny comedic black cloud eminating from the bowl. Reminded me of the old Warner Bros cartoons where I character would catch fire and then start sizzling after being put out with water!

This forum is great btw, thanks again
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Tobacco is like southern pork, it should be slow cooked. Not like a new York steak seared at highspeed
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its not the coals, its prob the way your packing your bowl? what kind of shisha are you using?
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Old March 3rd, 2010, 03:03 PM
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Al Fakher Bubble Gum - but am ditching it for something else..
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Al Fakher Bubble Gum - but am ditching it for something else..
AF shouldnt be packed too dense. a Nice fair pack should do it. I thought maybe it was nakhla, which needs to be dense or it will burn and get harsh pretty quick

try a different shisha, also try for different hole placement.. maybe more holes are needed
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