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Old March 9th, 2010, 02:32 AM
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Ok so I ordered some Fantasia recently and I got the new flavor Ace of Spades. Fantasia has a new bag that the tobacco comes in and it's quite convenient. A long zip bag. Why doesn't everyone do this instead of giving you a bag you eventually ruin from cutting open and getting shisha juice on the edges? Because I really do not feel like re-bagging anymore shisha or putting it in small containers. Thank you Fantasia, because it's the small things in life that count.
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Old March 9th, 2010, 02:41 AM
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a) they dont stack
b) they will leak
c) its more expensive

oh and also
d) you cant mix very easily in a bag

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Old March 9th, 2010, 02:45 AM
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rule number 32 enjoy the little things in life!

This is an excellent idea, I usually just cut the bag and pour into the tin because I don't let it sit long enough to rust but this is a very creative idea and will revolutionize the way tobacco is packaged. Nak is also doing something like this by putting their tobacco in a resalable tupperware.
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Old March 9th, 2010, 02:53 AM
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because you don't pay $6 for a glossy 50 gram box of desi murli.
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Old March 9th, 2010, 02:58 AM
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a) they dont stack
b) they will leak
c) its more expensive

oh and also
d) you cant mix very easily in a bag
But if it's a 50 gram you'll finish it in a couple days so none of those are really an issue other than the cost.They have a zipper and the bag comes in a box.
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Old March 9th, 2010, 03:00 AM
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rule number 32 enjoy the little things in life!

This is an excellent idea, I usually just cut the bag and pour into the tin because I don't let it sit long enough to rust but this is a very creative idea and will revolutionize the way tobacco is packaged. Nak is also doing something like this by putting their tobacco in a resalable tupperware.
Yeah I saw the tupperware when I was ordering last week. I was very impressed.
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Old March 9th, 2010, 04:19 AM
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i would rather pay for the quality of the tobacco.... not because the packaging is so "great" or "wonderful"...

if i were to try and sale you dog shit in a paper bag would you buy it... no?!
hmmm
okay how about if i put this dog shit in a pouch (with a ziplock of course) that has "Dog Shit" labeled all over, now would you buy it?.... NO?!
wtf i thought that is what you wanted lol

see man... packaging means shit if the product is shit
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Old March 9th, 2010, 05:15 AM
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if i were to try and sale you dog shit in a paper bag would you buy it... no?!
hmmm
okay how about if i put this dog shit in a pouch (with a ziplock of course) that has "Dog Shit" labeled all over, now would you buy it?.... NO?!
wtf i thought that is what you wanted lol

see man... packaging means shit if the product is shit
Only if it comes in a tin can.
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Old March 9th, 2010, 08:52 AM
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I still say the best packaging in shisha was the wooden baja box, yes it didn't hold tobacco all that well but it makes for a great place to store all your gromets and what not. Also they look cool.
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I'm just not lazy. So having to take a few seconds to put the shisha into a new package or tuperware just isn't a huge deal to me.
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Old March 9th, 2010, 09:53 AM
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I can see that Fantasia is putting all of their stuff in a little zip-lock, but isn't it cheaper to go to the store and grab yourself some of those Tupperware containers and just transfer? I think that the Tupperware thing is a great idea that Nakhla is coming up with. They are basically saving you a trip to the store to do something you were already going to do with a 250g.
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Old March 9th, 2010, 10:13 AM
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The only downside to it is a price raise. Maybe I'm wrong. But if Nahkla pays say.. 50 cents more to put it in these containers. They need to charge online vendors atleast $1 more. And local vendors who buy from online vendors charge $2 more (on already ridiculous prices) so they can make a profit.
Which means higher prices for us. But I could be wrong...
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Old March 9th, 2010, 10:21 AM
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i would rather pay for the quality of the tobacco.... not because the packaging is so "great" or "wonderful"...

if i were to try and sale you dog shit in a paper bag would you buy it... no?!
hmmm
okay how about if i put this dog shit in a pouch (with a ziplock of course) that has "Dog Shit" labeled all over, now would you buy it?.... NO?!
wtf i thought that is what you wanted lol

see man... packaging means shit if the product is shit
Think of it this way MH. If you had to choose between getting your shisha fresh, moist and, delicious or dry, crusty, and stale, which is better?

Packaging makes all the difference in delivering a fresh product. If they provide you a container that can keep that product fresh after the sale, then you are paying for some convenience. If you have a quality product you should have quality packaging. But yes, if your product sucks, no amount of packaging will help dress up a turd.

How about yogurt in a wax paper cup?
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Old March 9th, 2010, 11:13 AM
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Fantasia had ziplocks on the 200gram size since day 1. The ziplock they are now using on the 50 is the same bag. They are spending less by not having multiple types of packages. They are very profit driven.
Fancy packages that cost way more than the tobacco.
A ton of shisha juice, more than anyone else. Why? Because shisha juice weighs more and costs less.
It's a decent smoke but so not worth it. I buy it only to get my gf to smoke with me cause she falls for the marketing campaign
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Default Re: Why doesn't every one do this?!

I always repack my tobacco in Ziplock baggies gives my chance to cut up the large stems and mix the juices through
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Old March 9th, 2010, 02:12 PM
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I still say the best packaging in shisha was the wooden baja box, yes it didn't hold tobacco all that well but it makes for a great place to store all your gromets and what not. Also they look cool.
Yes! I'm glad someone remembers that.
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Old March 9th, 2010, 02:56 PM
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can someone who has a tub of the nak mizo post a pic of what the tuuperware container it comes in looks like?
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can someone who has a tub of the nak mizo post a pic of what the tuuperware container it comes in looks like?
Look for John's video on youtube, he breaks it down.
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im new so john who..lol got a link?
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Old March 9th, 2010, 03:40 PM
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i think the zip lock bag is a good idea considering i always put my shisha in them regardless, but at the same time its really not that big of a deal to transfer it, its not like im not going to buy the shisha because it doesnt come in a ziplock bag. it would be nice tho!
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im new so john who..lol got a link?
nm i found it
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Old March 9th, 2010, 06:51 PM
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I use one of these, they're great.

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Old March 9th, 2010, 08:45 PM
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This is one of Nak's packages http://www.nakhla.com/ProductDetails.aspx?PID=78
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yep.. the jars.. keeps the tobacco fresh lol
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I dont see how adding better packaging can really effect the price of the shisha, nor do I see it changing the quality of already solid brands.

I agree that its kind of pathetic sometimes when I am too lazy to just transfer some tobacco from one thing to another but....w/e.

All I am saying is look at JM's tobacco, its not the greatest quality in the world but they still sell it for a VERY reasonable price and includes a shiney lil tin container AND...zomg this is the cool part...AN EXTRA RESEALABLE BAGGY FOR UR SHISHA!!! Amazing huh?

Nakhla is so far the winner, because their tupperware + their always lower prices x the fact that their tobacco is almost ALWAYS consistant and gr8 quality.

Lets all look at starbuzz and shake our fists in anger for over charging us for glycerin dripping shit lazily tossed into a shiney tin can with only 1 baggy!!! DAMN THEM TO HEAAAAAAAALz.

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