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Old March 22nd, 2010, 07:28 AM
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Hi there!
I've been interessted in hookah for a long time and got myself my first 1 from egypt as a souvernir. Small and noobish :P
Lately I've bought myself a bigger one and learned alot about how to bake the bowl, tips with the water etc but I never seem to get as good smoke as you guys have in the vids and sometimes it tastes rlly strong and is hard to inhale properly.

I've tried with waterbowl without water, only ice.
Bigger bowl.
Thicker tobacco and 2 coals.

My hookah is airsealed and the boal is not very big (with a perforated metalplate on that came with the hookah) plus a windcatcher.

Any tips on how I could pimp it :P?



Edit: Tried to change my waterbowl with a bigger cooking-oil flask like this:
The flask and filled with ice 3/4 when the bottom of my hookah pipe was about 2/4'th down in it.
This to get better room to "store" the smoke. Got very much better clouds.


If any1 have any tips or tricks I could learn it would be awesome

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Old March 22nd, 2010, 07:52 AM
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Default Re: Thicker smoke - Tips

Glycerin or more heat. The only problem with more heat is it ruins the tobacco. Most of us smoke hookah for the enjoyment and flavor and dont worry about thick smoke, but whatever floats your boat.
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 07:54 AM
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Default Re: Thicker smoke - Tips

Well my friend, Ice is going to yield bigger clouds, but it also takes a bit away from the flavor. If you are looking for smoke, look for tobaccos with lots of glycerin like Starbuzz and AF. They both produce stellar clouds. Also, make sure that you aren't under-heating the bowl. If you do that, obviously, you aren't going to get much smoke. I would definitely use water, beings as that bubbling breaks up the smoke into bubbles and the more bubbles, the more smoke. Also, make sure your rig is airtight. From the looks of it, that vase that you have going on there might not be as airtight as you would think. Put the hose on the rig, plug the top hole and pull from the hose. If you get any air, then there is a leak.
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 07:58 AM
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I've done that test and it's airtight. I don't smoke mainly for the taste of fruit but rather to learn tricks for partys etc : P
Getting the smokerings going good by now without any tube, just looking for more efficency of bigger clouds like some of ya have in your vids. : )

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Old March 22nd, 2010, 09:10 AM
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3 coconara coals in a triangle and a grand hose with a water and ice base,or milk if you really want to should help
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 09:35 AM
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Default Re: Thicker smoke - Tips

Allan-
You say milk is better than water? I've even heard Coconut milk before so I bought some just in case I got bored and wanted to try. Is it worth a go?
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 09:36 AM
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vortex bowl, starbuzz 3 ******* hookah coals and a narbish
effortless clouds,

but yea thats outta km
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 10:02 AM
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High glycerin content tobacco
Large Diameter hose
Good heat
Vortex or phunnel bowl
Correct water level
Large diameter hookah stem can help
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 10:28 AM
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Allan-
You say milk is better than water? I've even heard Coconut milk before so I bought some just in case I got bored and wanted to try. Is it worth a go?
coconut milk i dont think would work,but yea milk helps,does not hurt to try,you dont like it,then you could always change the base back to water or whatever you like to
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 11:20 AM
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Default Re: Thicker smoke - Tips

what I do is 3 cocos, with homemade wind cover, ice in the base, using smaller diameter hose (cause KM big diameter hose doesn't give any smoke to me), large Egyptian bowl, sometimes double layer of foil, medium size holes.... giving me huge clouds, (dont try it unless you're used to hookah, might be too harsh)... Clouds aren't as thick as some people in videos tho... maybe it's just camera tricking us?
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Starbuzz and AF shisha always does the trick for me. Make sure you control the heat and you'll be fine.
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 01:11 PM
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coconut milk, just water it down a little
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If you are just looking for "Smoke" why get lung cancer in the process? Just heat up some glycerin and be done with it.
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 02:43 PM
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If you are just looking for "Smoke" why get lung cancer in the process? Just heat up some glycerin and be done with it.

if you don't smoke shisha for taste, u might as well not smoke it huh... well if you don't like the taste of food you might as well not eat... go die
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 03:04 PM
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if you don't smoke shisha for taste, u might as well not smoke it huh... well if you don't like the taste of food you might as well not eat... go die
Sounds about right. If tobacco had no flavor, then besides making pretty clouds, what is the point?

Smoking just for the clouds is like fishing without bait, yeah you can do it but why?
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 03:13 PM
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everything else already said, plus, get a twin or triple vortex bowl.. load it.. coal it.. smoke it. if you're only using ice, fill it all the way to the top : ) with tobacco, SB and AF will get you what you want (among others).

post hit pics of those dense clouds : )
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 03:25 PM
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Sounds about right. If tobacco had no flavor, then besides making pretty clouds, what is the point?

Smoking just for the clouds is like fishing without bait, yeah you can do it but why?
if it was just the flavour you was after, instead of getting apple flavoured shisha (just for example) just buy an apple, it tastes more like apple right?
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 03:29 PM
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Default Re: Thicker smoke - Tips

The debate between smoke/flavor is a useless fight. It's all opinion, I enjoy good smoke however ultimately I smoke for flavor. I feel most people start out just trying to get lots of smoke for the novelty of it, but eventually it gets old and they would rather have a better taste.

Or if you've been smoking long enough you should find a balance between both that suites you, I get lots of flavor and smoke from many of my favorite brands.
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 03:38 PM
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Yeah, if your looking for a good taste, DM is the way to go.
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 04:29 PM
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if it was just the flavour you was after, instead of getting apple flavoured shisha (just for example) just buy an apple, it tastes more like apple right?
Huh?

I was just commenting on the OP that is not interested in flavor as much as pretty clouds. I enjoy it for several reasons and flavor is one of many. I also like the buzz, the social aspect, and generally killing myself doing something I want to do. I have three vices, cars, tobacco and booze.

Drive fast, smoke richly and drink to good friends. That's just how I roll.
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Get a phunnel bowl 3 - 4 coals (coconara) some starbuzz
Put water and ice in ur base dont worry about milk etc it gets messy!
Thick hose like nammor or narbish.
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 10:08 PM
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Milk in base, epic smoke "tobacco", three nat coals on vortex, large diameter everything.
Enjoy your huge and (hopefully, epic smoke is supposed to taste kind of bad) flavorless clouds.
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 10:25 PM
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vortex bowl, starbuzz 3 ******* hookah coals and a narbish
effortless clouds,

but yea thats outta km
Thats my exact setup ATM.... I have to agree on this there is a nice haze across my apartment
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My recipe for clouds of smoke(w/ flavor):

-small funnel
-starbuzz or tangiers tobacco
-3 CH QL's coals

all on my single hose Mya Diva w/ my narbish and water + ice in the base.
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Huh?

I was just commenting on the OP that is not interested in flavor as much as pretty clouds. I enjoy it for several reasons and flavor is one of many. I also like the buzz, the social aspect, and generally killing myself doing something I want to do. I have three vices, cars, tobacco and booze.

Drive fast, smoke richly and drink to good friends. That's just how I roll.
Whats it to you whether or not the OP smokes for flavor or not? He likes to smoke for big clouds, let him do as he pleases.
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