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Old April 1st, 2010, 11:32 AM
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IMO yes it is
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Old April 1st, 2010, 11:39 AM
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Seriously? That comment was unnecessary. Why say something like that for someone giving there opinion on what the OP asked?
Because it holds no representation of what he was trying to portray. A Ferrari F40 is in no way comparable to a z06. Quality of build, parts, amount of engineering behind one car and the other are astronomical. If what we are talking about is an item based on parts used and labor to make it; the price assigned to it that analogy holds no ground.
With hookah bowls, clearly small tangier funnel bowls are of the same if not better quality than the alien bowls and they are sold for less. The materials used are very very close, the workmanship is very similar and the skill needed to make them is identical; however, the price difference remains 5+ dollars. The topic of this thread is if the item is overpriced or not, the answer is clearly yes.
I would say a better analogy would be something like a HDMI cable, one made by Monster Cable Company and a Premium one made by Monoprice. The materials are almost identical, the manufacturing process is similar, and they both yield the same end result. Yet one company charges way more because...well because they know they can get away with it.
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Old April 1st, 2010, 11:42 AM
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Because it holds no representation of what he was trying to portray. A Ferrari F40 is in no way comparable to a z06. Quality of build, parts, amount of engineering behind one car and the other are astronomical. If what we are talking about is an item based on parts used and labor to make it; the price assigned to it that analogy holds no ground.
With hookah bowls, clearly small tangier funnel bowls are of the same if not better quality than the alien bowls and they are sold for less. The materials used are very very close, the workmanship is very similar and the skill needed to make them is identical; however, the price difference remains 5+ dollars. The topic of this thread is if the item is overpriced or not, the answer is clearly yes.
I would say a better analogy would be something like a HDMI cable, one made by Monster Cable Company and a Premium one made by Monoprice. The materials are almost identical, the manufacturing process is similar, and they both yield the same end result. Yet one company charges way more because...well because they know they can get away with it.
Thank you for the clarification. You should have stated this to begin with so all of this would have been avoided.

After he stated all this, can we keep this thread on topic.
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Man, people get all butthurt on here over nothing. Lets please not turn another Alien thread into a shitfest like last time.
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If you want to see overpriced, try to find a Tangiers mini. This bowl works just as well for about half of the price the real mini's are going for.

Definitely worth $20. The amount of tobacco it saved me will more than make up for that price within the first week of smoking.

What do people mean by saying "saves tobacco"? How can it save? Instead of one long session u smoke 2 short ones right?
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Old April 1st, 2010, 12:47 PM
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Because it holds no representation of what he was trying to portray. A Ferrari F40 is in no way comparable to a z06. Quality of build, parts, amount of engineering behind one car and the other are astronomical. If what we are talking about is an item based on parts used and labor to make it; the price assigned to it that analogy holds no ground.
With hookah bowls, clearly small tangier funnel bowls are of the same if not better quality than the alien bowls and they are sold for less. The materials used are very very close, the workmanship is very similar and the skill needed to make them is identical; however, the price difference remains 5+ dollars. The topic of this thread is if the item is overpriced or not, the answer is clearly yes.
I would say a better analogy would be something like a HDMI cable, one made by Monster Cable Company and a Premium one made by Monoprice. The materials are almost identical, the manufacturing process is similar, and they both yield the same end result. Yet one company charges way more because...well because they know they can get away with it.
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What do people mean by saying "saves tobacco"? How can it save? Instead of one long session u smoke 2 short ones right?
Saves tobacco because it uses less for a session. You do not smoke 2 short sessions, unless you want to. I haven't read reviews on it, but I guess it would last 45 minutes per session, maybe less.
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Saves tobacco because it uses less for a session. You do not smoke 2 short sessions, unless you want to. I haven't read reviews on it, but I guess it would last 45 minutes per session, maybe less.
I am getting an hour and forty five minutes to two hours per bowl with Tangiers.
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Old April 1st, 2010, 12:56 PM
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I am getting an hour and forty five minutes to two hours per bowl with Tangiers.
What about a tobacco everyone likes? JK, have you tried any others with it or just Tangiers?
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Old April 1st, 2010, 12:57 PM
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That would make sense since The Tang is a ton more heat tolerant!
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Old April 1st, 2010, 01:02 PM
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Just Tangiers so far. By the way, you should all like it.

I'll try some AF and Nak today as well. I know they probably wont work as well though.

If you are a Tangiers smoker, this bowl is a must have.
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idk why people are getting so mad or upset on this thread cause hookahpro is all about honesty and that was my honest thoughts on the bowls
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Old April 1st, 2010, 01:11 PM
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so many people wasting their breath (i mean fingers). just let people buy it who cares. you don't want to spend 20 don't do it
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Old April 1st, 2010, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: are the aliens over prices??

I just have to say.. Yes the alien funnel bowl is new, but what people seem to realize is that its JUST A BOWL.
I can honestly say my opinion is in no way biased because 1. I've never ordered from ********** (So i'm not a fanboy) and 2. I have no idea what caused all the drama in the forum.

The hype surrounding this bowl was kinda silly.. I mean yeah, its a new product. But its ONLY function was to use less tobacco. People seem to think its going to have some kind of superpower.

I personally don't think it's worth it, because I love my ten dollar vortex and can underpack it if necessary.
If you are one of the people who swear by funnel bowls, then this may be the best thing sinced sliced bread. But I don't understand why one tiny little bowl can cause such drama amoung adults.

Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like people are going to extremes when it comes to supporting or not supporting this bowl. You either praise it or wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.

Maybe everything I've said is completely wrong, but Its my opinion and I felt that I needed to express it. Don't attck me because I'll ignore your reply. :]

To everyone who bought one: I hope you like it and I hope it lives up to your expectations, because it wasnt a bad product idea.

That is all..
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Man, people get all butthurt on here over nothing. Lets please not turn another Alien thread into a shitfest like last time.
Butthurt? Everyone is entitled to their opinion and they are freely expressing it. What good is it if everyone had the same opinion about a product. You can staunchly defend the product, while someone else doesnt like it, while someone else could care less. We are a diverse crowd.
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I got mine since I don't have a phunnel and i really want to try tangiers. Therefore, I bought a phunnel, the hype made me want to buy it, eventually I think it came to that he said he would sell it for 26 and sold it for 19
In my mind it made it seem cheaper. I should have taken a step back and realized it is still expensive, but hopefully it will save shisha
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I got mine since I don't have a phunnel and i really want to try tangiers. Therefore, I bought a phunnel, the hype made me want to buy it, eventually I think it came to that he said he would sell it for 26 and sold it for 19
In my mind it made it seem cheaper. I should have taken a step back and realized it is still expensive, but hopefully it will save shisha
i cant speak for every tobacco but it saves alot over the small phunnel. the alien probably uses about 1/5th that of the small. it gets about 1/2 the duration of a small but it uses 2/5ths the amount of small. but that is just my "opinion"
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i used a mini 3 dollar Egyptian today on some Orange Soda and it lasted about 2 hours 10 minutes. all about the packer. that's what she said.
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I mean honestly it's your decision if it's worth it. If you'll get good use out of it, and it functions as you expect, then it'll be worth it. If you don't like the price, there are many alternatives in the "hookah market" Vortex's, Small Havana phunnel's, and the good o'l Egyptian (ranging from $2.50 to 10.00).

The entire point of the Alien was to provide a mini tangiers phunnel alternative as the mini's are hard to come by. There are people how would spend more that $18 for mini phunnel.

Small supply + High Demand = Higher cost.
Large supply + Lower demand = Lower cost.
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*** in no way am I a fanboy***

I ordered this bowl because of the hype it was getting.

When I got it I tried it out right away and in all honestly, this thing pays for itself after buying two cans of 250 g of tobacco. This thing uses such little tobacco and still goes strong after 45 minutes.
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I don't think it is over priced, I think it was intelligently priced. You have to see the situation through a vendors eyes, John knows damn well that alot of people wanted a tangiers mini funnel, and since those were discontinued he knew everyone would want a small but now due to the shortage you can barely get one of those. Now he has us right where he wants us with the introduction of his new alien and he knows that people are going to be dying to get one since is the next best bowl (to some)

I would have honestly done the same thing.

"Everyone's got a price, and everyone's gonna pay"
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