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Old February 6th, 2008, 03:48 AM
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Default herro, i think i might be having some stem problems

I'm new to this forum (love it already) seems like a very friendly and welcoming group of people here.

anyways i think the stem on my hookah is having problems, a couple weeks ago i cleaned it out and after i let it dry it took it for another run.
but it seemed like when taking a hit it was like there was air bubbles or something going into the hose valves, i dont quite know how to describe it aside from that, but for a couple days there was these air bubbles or something, and you could feel them through the hose.
that eventually went away but now it seems like from one of the valves (its a 3 hose stem) is leaking.
i checked all the bearings and dismantled all i could and reassembled it but it still leaks. does anyone have an idea what might be the problem?

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Old February 6th, 2008, 03:52 AM
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Default Re: herro, i think i might be having some stem problems

Hmmm sounds like your getting water into your hose. Hehe but I could be wrong. Maybe your putting in too much water into your vase or it wasn't dry yet?
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Old February 6th, 2008, 03:56 AM
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Default Re: herro, i think i might be having some stem problems

that could be it, since the air bubble thing went away a couple days later...
i put in enough so that its an inch or two under the water so i dunno if thats the problem
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Default Re: herro, i think i might be having some stem problems

if it was bubbling when you put it underwater there is a slight leak in the hose port but thats at the metal so the water is actually in the metal of your stem there. pain because you cant fix it too well. you can find the hole and seal it up with jbweld or something.
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Old February 6th, 2008, 08:24 AM
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Default Re: herro, i think i might be having some stem problems

First off ... Welcome to the Hookah Pro Community Raid3n!

Your water level could be to high. OR are you using something like a little milk in the base, or some other liquid to make the water "bubble" up? If so, it could be getting into your hose.

As for the hose port. Try taking the hose off, and plugging the hose port with your finger, and see if it is leaking around the welds? If not, you could have a seal problem where the hose goes into the hose port, or a leak in the hose itself (maybe some rust issues from water going into the hose due to the bubbling of water into your hose?
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Default Re: herro, i think i might be having some stem problems

hmm ok... well when i have a change to check it out ill do that and get back to you.
im pretty sure its not too much liquid, ive only used water and gatorade in it and fill it so its about an inch under.
but i will see if i can find out if there is leak or its just me not tightening something up enough.
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Default Re: herro, i think i might be having some stem problems

Water in your hose, and your stem.

See, you can't air-dry hookahs because
1. They rust
2. The water doesn't evaporate from the inside of the heart.

You have to blow out the water, or else it will sit in there and irritate the metal.

What kind of hookah to do have anyway?
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Default Re: herro, i think i might be having some stem problems

alright ill keep that in mind thanks, im still fairly new to owning a hookah.

um im not entirely sure what it is lol. i believe it an 20" ish egyptian with 3 hoses. for 65 bucks it was definitely a good buy for the first hookah i love the thing to death!
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Default Re: herro, i think i might be having some stem problems

Ahh yeah OK. So they ports are welded on. Yeah i believe what you thought was a bubble was actually water from cleaning it the day before.

There could be a leak. Plug the tiny hole (located under the heart, next to the downstem) leading to the hose port you want to check with your finger; then blow into that hose port, and if you hear air there is for sure a leak.
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Old February 6th, 2008, 01:08 PM
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Default Re: herro, i think i might be having some stem problems

that could be what it was. since im not getting them anymore.
as for the leak ill check that again when i come by it again sometime today. ive been busy for awhile, but its in my car so ill check it before i leave.

but i do have another question, how would i go about dismantling the stem so that i could better clean it next time, you mentioned the heart and i know ive seen it multiple places before. is it even possible is probably what i should be asking
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Default Re: herro, i think i might be having some stem problems

If it really is an Eygptian, you won't able to take it apart. It's probably welding together into a single piece.
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With Egyptian hookahs, they are designed in the traditional manner. This means that the whole stem is all one piece, including the down stem. The best way to clean it is plug one end of the stem, pour in your cleaning agents, then plug the other end and shake it around. The middle (core) of the stem is usually one long tube straight down the middle so it's very easy to clean. You can also use a stem brush, available in a ton of places online, and you insert it into the stem and scrub it clean.

You cannot dismantle the stem or hose ports in a Traditional stem, only in Mod stems (JandR Syrians, Mya hookahs, Mod Hookahs on Hookah-shisha.com).

To clean out the tubes inside the heart (that lead to the hose ports and the purge valve) you can use pipe cleaners or a stem rod. They are a bit harder to clean, but you can find your own way.
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Default Re: herro, i think i might be having some stem problems

alright thanks for that info. i looked around at it earlier and tried seeing how i could take it apart and found no screws or anything of that sort and started to wonder lol.
what i did the last time is i filled up my bath with warm water and threw it in so it was completely under and run it through the water to clean it out so i have that general idea down then lol.
thanks for the help guys i really appreciate it
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Old February 6th, 2008, 09:38 PM
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I'm not sure I'm understanding correctly. But are you sure it's not water bubbling up into your hose when you smoke? This could easily be caused by overfilling the base with water. Make sure your water level is only 1-1.5 inches above the bottom tip of the stem. Also, cheak for air leaks by assembling it completely, place your hand on the top bowl hole and suck in through the hose. If you get air flow, than it means you have a leak somewhere in the stem. If not, then your stem is air tight and fine.
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Default Re: herro, i think i might be having some stem problems

i could have been doing it wrong (which im fairly sure i did) but i didnt seem to hear any sort of air flow.
ill go back and see when i have time in the next couple hours.

but i think ultimately the big question is unless there was something faulty to begin with (which to the best of my knowledge there wasn't) would a multi hose egyptian stem really start to break down after a month of being used on average once a week, and the rest of the time its stored in a case?
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i could have been doing it wrong (which im fairly sure i did) but i didnt seem to hear any sort of air flow.
ill go back and see when i have time in the next couple hours.

but i think ultimately the big question is unless there was something faulty to begin with (which to the best of my knowledge there wasn't) would a multi hose egyptian stem really start to break down after a month of being used on average once a week, and the rest of the time its stored in a case?
It shouldn't if it's a quality hookah. Of course, there are cheap/poorly made hookahs out there that will start breaking down after a short period of time. There are several multi hose hookah options out there that will offer reliability and great smoke for years to come. A hokah shouldn't break down after only occasional smoking. All my hookahs have stood up to daily abuse smoking outdoors. Each and every one of them still perform just as good as they did when new. Of course this largely depends on what brand hookah you have and it's build quality. What hookah do you have?
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Default Re: herro, i think i might be having some stem problems

i honestly could not tell you specifically what it is, aside from the fact its egyptian, or at least looks egyptian.
ill do some searching and see if i can come with a pic of one similar if not exactly. I paid 60 dollars for it, and for a 3 hose. i highly doubt it is authentic
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i honestly could not tell you specifically what it is, aside from the fact its egyptian, or at least looks egyptian.
ill do some searching and see if i can come with a pic of one similar if not exactly. I paid 60 dollars for it, and for a 3 hose. i highly doubt it is authentic
hmmm, do you have a digital camera? If you do, you can take pictures and post them up here so we can help you identify it...
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Default Re: herro, i think i might be having some stem problems

alright ill do that. hold on a bit and ill go set it up and take a pic
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Alright here are the couple of pics i took. they are a bit bad quality because of the flash and it was too dark without it

[img width=450 height=601]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/Raid3n_1609/100_1030.jpg[/img]
[img width=450 height=601]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/Raid3n_1609/100_1031.jpg[/img]




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Default Re: herro, i think i might be having some stem problems

ok, the vase seems to be the Mya Gyro's vase. The stem doesn't look like any Mya stem I've seen, so I'm stuck there. This hookah is definetly not Traditional Egyptian. Mya is Chinese and machine made, but like I said, that stem is throwing me off, so I wouldn't call it a Mya hookah. Where did you buy this hookah? Was it in person or online?
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WOw bro does it say "MYA" on the hard case you have anywhere?
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Default Re: herro, i think i might be having some stem problems

yeah thats what stumped me as well. every hookah ive looked at online doesnt have that stem. it looks machine made, because it doesnt look like there are any flaws at all, it might be seen in the pics, though there are the usual wear and tear scratches on it.
if it helps at all there are ball bearings in it and i bought it at a hookah stand about a month ago
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Default Re: herro, i think i might be having some stem problems

nah that case has nothing about mya on it. its just a plain black case lol
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hmmm, this is weird, I'm a little thrown off now. I think the vendor might have mixed and matched a different stem to that Mya Gyro vase. Still, if you check for an air leak, and it passes, then it should smoke good. Try doing what I told you before. Plug the other two hose ports. Insert a hose into the third. Place your hand on top of the bowl. And try to suck in air. If you can't suck in any air, then it means that it's air tight, and because of this it should smoke good with no issues.

I know that Mya necks (the part where the hose ports are) can have the other ports subtracted or added. Do you have the covers for the other two hose ports?
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